Toll Roads Would Bring Back Freeway Cameras, Fines

Proposed Arizona toll roads are back in the news. This time they’ve been given a “hot” new name. “HOT” lanes or High Occupancy Toll lanes would allow for some motorists to pay for the right to drive in HOV lanes during heavy traffic times without having any passengers.

Don’t let the name fool you. This is a backdoor conversion of AZ Highways to toll roads.

And here many of you thought you’d left toll roads behind on the East Coast and Midwest. How do terrible ideas like this one keep finding their way to our state?

It’s hard to know where to begin addressing all the headaches this will cause everyone who uses the freeway system. To sum it up with one question, “How would you like to see your freeways, which your tax dollars already paid for, be torn up, made more dangerous and congested, the cameras brought back and have to pay for the privilege to drive on them?” That’s the offer on the table from those in Arizona State Legislature who would love to fleece the motoring public once again.

The often pro-scamera AZ Republic published an article today on the HOT lanes and their benefits.They included a poll which diluted the issue. on the other hand, published a simple up or down poll and clearly the public does not want toll roads or lanes in Arizona, based on their results.

When justifications like, “easing congestion,” “pay to bypass traffic” or others are used, just know that this is a way for your state or county government to sell roads that we’ve already paid for to foreign companies like Macquarie and Cintra, then charge you to drive on them. Cameras would be used to enforce the toll lanes, which means it would be very easy for photo radar to be included.

Does this remind anyone of the Redflex scam?

25 Responses to Toll Roads Would Bring Back Freeway Cameras, Fines

  1. photoradarscam says:

    Once again, the lure of EASY MONEY will be hard to resist. Don’t forget to call and write your reps!

  2. Perhaps ADOT should focus on reducing the number of cars on the road that don’t have valid registration. Current estimates place the number of ineligible vehicles at over 20%. Getting them off the road may result in fewer public dollars subsidizing the transit system because ridership should increase by the number of scofflaw motorists taken off the road. 20% is over 1,000,000 vehicles.

    Additionally, those fewer vehicles will result in reduced gas tax revenue. It’s reality. However, responsible spending isn’t just for households, it’s for government too. If the revenue source government depends on is from illegal activity then the government shouldn’t depend on that revenue source. After all, can households depend on ill gotten gains for sustainability the way government does? Is the double standard acceptable to educated Americans? I don’t think so. Perhaps the solution will be replacing the gas tax with a road user fee based on a vehicle mileage tax. Electricity is billed at a per kilowatt rate, surface transportation infrastructure should be paid for by the motorists that use it….legally.

    Lastly, in addition to reducing congestion by getting the ineligible vehicles off the road we’ll have less air pollution and a reduced dependency on foreign oil. Imagine. What would our economy be like if less of our money was spent on foreign oil? Do the math and you’ll see that HOT Lanes should only be an option once traffic is strictly enforced to ensure only eligible vehicles are on the road.

  3. kandaris says:

    Clearly these bastards will try anything. It never ends.

  4. 4409 says:

    Your right “driving” is a privilege but it is a constitutional right to “travel”.

    Legislators, police officers, and court officials are being made aware that there are court decisions disproving the opinion that traveling is a privilege that requires government approval.

    “Even the legislature has no power to deny to a citizen the right to travel upon the highway and transport his property in the ordinary course of his business or pleasure, though this right may be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience.” Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 22.

    (“Regulated” here means traffic safety enforcement: stop lights, signs, etc.)

    “The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by [automobile], is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.

    It could not be stated more conclusively that citizens of the states have a right to travel, without approval or restrictions (license), and that this right is protected under the U.S. Constitution. Here are other court decisions that expound the same facts:

    “The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the 5th Amendment.” Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

    “Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution.” Schactman v. Dulles, 96 App DC 287, 293.

    As hard as it is for those in law enforcement to believe, there is no room for speculation in these court decisions. The American citizen does indeed have the inalienable right to use the roadways unrestricted in any manner as long as they are not damaging or violating property or rights of others.

    Government, in requiring the people to file for drivers license, vehicle registrations, mandatory insurance, and demanding they stop for vehicle inspections, roadblocks, etc. are restricting and therefore violating the peoples’ common law right to travel.

  5. Anybody have any ideas to STOP ADOT or the legislature? Who ultimately approves the use of toll roads (aka slave lanes)?

  6. 4409 says:

    I posted this over 2 years ago because I knew what was going to happen and how the media and these crooks would try to spin things. Toll Roads are a scam to steal roads and charge you for items you already paid for.

  7. 4409 says:

    For better quality of the video above click on 260p and change to 360p

  8. 4409 says:

    Also if you want to blame someone for these Toll Roads coming the man to blame is Andy Biggs who authored the bill to create a Toll Road Authority.

    Jay Tibshraeny was first to put his name on the bill that was written by the toll road scammers but actually backed away when we started calling and complaining….so Andy Biggs became the person who was paid off


    Well, Maybe if everyone on this site calls their stat representatives and tell them how outraged they are that a bill was passed for a toll road authority thereby allowing toll roads maybe they will listen? or at least you will have been heard.

  10. Doc says:

    Here’s a DANDY little site to bring us all up to speed on the nefarious activities of these socialist corporations.

    Cruise thru it, click on some of the articles…you will not believe the ARROGANCE of these idiots! They even go so far as to state that the term “freeway” is a mis-nomer & should be obliterated because it implies that the road is “free”. Well, it ain’t exactly…uuuhhh…FREE, but we’ve ALREADY PAID FOR TH’ SON-UVA-BITCH! The scam here makes redflex look like little league…

    • Doc,
      I just found that website while looking for some material. It’s going to be very helpful and arrogance is always fun to attack.

    • Doc says:

      NIFTY, huh? I, like yourself, Stacey, & th’ other 1600+ diligent citizens here have kept an eye on this thing.

      I have been running into a brick wall with a couple of different Motorcycle rights organization ‘officers’…who’ve got their own agenda goin’ so much they can’t/won’t see th’ forest for th’ TREE! This WILL affect every motorist in Arizona…SOON! That will include those of us on 2 wheels.

      It’s just th’ start down ANOTHER slippery slope. What is so scarey to me is that our “conservative” elected officials (conservatism GENERALLY meaning “less gubmint”) are sponsoring this socialism, right along with th’ socio-dems, all in th’ name of th’ almighty dollar. Which they can’t/won’t properly manage under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

  11. Stacey says:

    TSA officer kills himself during police shoot out

  12. Stacey says:

    TSA photocopies camerafraud founder’s credit cards and other personal documents

  13. B says:

    This is no surprise to anyone who knows how the lobbyists have their stranglehold at the corrupt halls at the state capital.

  14. Stacey says:

    More fun at the Phoenix airport:

  15. Cameras in Aussie land says:

    Check out the picture on this article, notice the camera saving lives?

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