Tucson Photo Tickets Are Invalid


Tickets issued by scamera vendor ATS in the city of Tucson since August 14th are invalid. Citizens of the city should immediately begin requesting refunds.

In addition, anyone with a photo ticket issued during this time from the Tucson area should also request that their driving record be wiped clean of the alleged violation.

Here is a link to the expired contract: Tucson Contract with ATS

The video will take it from here…

Why does Tucson or ATS think it is justifiable to issue tickets when there isn’t even an agreement in place for them to do so?

What would stop Redflex from dragging their little trailers out to Tucson and just start issuing violations for any reason they could come up with? If ATS can do it, why not at least try?

It’s been said over and over again on this website during the past two years, but this would be a good time to restate: ATS and Redflex are two criminal organizations illegally issuing photo tickets that violate your Constitutional Rights and for some unexplained reason, to this point it’s been allowed to go on. Is this episode of flaunting the law enough, or does everyone need to see more?

Contact Tucson Photo Traffic Enforcement:

(520) 837-7288

48 Responses to Tucson Photo Tickets Are Invalid

  1. kandaris says:

    Girl… you are awesome! There is no way they can legally justify that. If they do come up with an excuse it will only serve to highlight just how corrupt this system is…

  2. photoradarscam says:

    So right now, an unlicense private investigator is spying on Tucson residents with NO AUTHORITY from any government body? Wow.

  3. Sure says:

    Holy smokes! That is one good lookin wrist.

  4. Folks in Tucson must really like being scammed if this is allowed to go on. Something tells me they don’t and therefore won’t.

  5. Mike Waters says:

    Sounds like a great scam – ANYONE can take pictures of cars on a road and issue tickets now?

    Oh yes you have to photoshop in a timestamp and (very high) speed …

  6. LoneWolf says:

    Good job, Stacey! This should really anger Tucson citizens once they become aware of it. I’d like to see what they have to say in an attempt to slither out of this one.

  7. Dr Jett says:

    Why should anyone be surprised? This is just business as usual. Who needs a contract to continue a scam? Just click and send an invalid notification and $$$$$ will roll in. The entire traffic enforcement system throughout the USA is all run illegally. Safety is never as important as revenue for the people and companies that have a job extorting American citizens and anyone else who gets caught in their web.

  8. L. Davis says:

    I don’t know why Tucson citizens impacted by this decision have to “ask for a refund”. In my opinion ATS should be forced to refund every ticket in their system without those who have been scammed asking for their money back.

  9. Joe says:

    A media contact informed me they researched this and the tickets ARE still valid.

    “… turns out the city of Tucson has a clause in the contract that basically means they continue as usual till a new contract is established. The tickets are not void.”
    😦

    • LoneWolf says:

      First of all, I wouldn’t trust the media especially if they’re anything like AZ Central. Second, where is this so-called clause? I don’t see it in this particular contract unless there’s something more recent. And last, even if the media is trustworthy, we really can’t trust the media’s source, especially if it’s coming from ATS. The source (City or ATS) would lie through their teeth about something like this because we’re talking about a potential multi-million-dollar scam (or mistake).

    • Sure says:

      Attorneys reviewed the contract and disagree.

      If they want to say the contract is valid then that would mean there will be no price adjustment since it is effective upon the date of the
      Contract extension.

  10. 4409 says:

    I love Stacey….🙂

  11. LoneWolf says:

    Study: Car accidents rose after states banned texting

    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/09/28/20100928texting-bans0928.html#ixzz10nuHEnh9

    Interesting.. and to think they were going to set up the scameras to capture people text messaging..

  12. LoneWolf says:

    Just wondering how a contract can be valid if it’s expired.. ???? Once expired, there IS NO contract until they make up a new one! When the contract expired for the freeway cameras, they got shut off on the same night… period. Friggin money-hungry scumbags!

    • guttersn1pe says:

      From the conversation, it sounded like the contract is required by city manager directive (purchases over $10K), not any legal requirement. So as long as both sides are interested in providing and receiving services, I think it just keeps on going and going.

      The potential downside for ATS is if Tucson comes back later and says, “we didn’t have a signed agreement therefore we’re not paying you”. But we all know how unlikely that is to happen.

      In the situation of DPS, they were clear that they were ending the contract for services by letting it expire.

    • guttersn1pe says:

      Perhaps a good way of dealing with this is contacting the city manager’s office and asking why he/she is allowing the police department to violate his/her directive. 🙂

  13. Sure says:

    Attorneys reviewed the contract and disagree with the city.

    If they want to say the contract is valid then that would mean there will be no price adjustment since those are effective upon the date of the contract extension – per the contract.

  14. photoradarscam says:

    Upon further thought – if ATS is sending tickets on behalf of the police without a contract in place – it’s MAIL FRAUD. Who do you report mail fraud to? DPS or the FBI or someone else?

    • 4409 says:

      Its definitely Extortion A.R.S. § 13-1804 but the State commits this thousands of times on a daily basis so contacting anyone from the State is laughable.

      There is NO one on the planet that extorts more than the State. If it were me I would report this to the FBI.

      Theft by misrepresentation.

      A.R.S. § 13-1802
      Under Arizona law, A person may commit theft if, without lawful authority, the person knowingly:

      (3) Obtains services or property (MONEY) of another by means of any material misrepresentation with intent to deprive the other person of such property or services;

      Class 2 Felony $25,000 and above

  15. phyllis says:

    received a tkt for going thru a red light on aug. 27th. Pay or not pay????

  16. Sure says:

    I’d contact a traffic lawyer, Phyllis. A class action lawsuit should be around the corner.

  17. photoradarscam says:

    Upon further thought, is ATS impersonating a peace officer? I think so:

    ARS13-2411(A):
    A person commits impersonating a peace officer if the person, without lawful authority, pretends to be a peace officer and engages in any conduct with the intent to induce another to submit to the person’s pretended authority or to rely upon the person’s pretended acts.
    ——————————————-
    ATS is inducing people to pay based on ATS’ pretend authority.

  18. Overwhelming support for our initiative in the comments section of the latest AZCentral article and it’s quickly taken down off the front page and moved to the “Scottsdale” section.

    They are so obvious about their bias now that it’s funny.

  19. Sure says:

    Thanks to the Man in Black – Mark Spear

    He is really keeping on top of things over in Tucson.

    He was the one that notified us that the contract in Tucson had expired. He went to the media and city council and notified them that the contract signage is incorrect in front of photo radar cameras (2812204).
    http://www.kgun9.com/global/story.asp?s=13234001

    He goes to the city council meetings and speaks out, he protests in the front of the vans, and has helped lots of people with their tickets.

    Thanks Mark for the great job!!!!!!!!!

  20. photoradarscam says:

    Does anyone know if they are lowering the speed limits here: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_2e54c350-cb5d-11df-9a46-001cc4c03286.html

    • AngryAZ says:

      I live in Tucson and have been here since 1989. I have noticed in the past couple years that the speed limits all over town are been reduced by about 5mph or they are making more streets with the day/night speed limit. (Thank Texas on that stupid ideal) I did find a interesting article on the web about speed limits. http://ibiblio.org/rdu/sl-irrel.html

  21. Sure says:

    I meant to say section 281204 in my post about Mark.

  22. photoradarscam says:

    South San Fran had to refund tickets that were issued during a time period when there was no contract in effect: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/30/3077.asp

    LA’s camera program a disaster: http://thenewspaper.com/news/32/3277.asp

  23. kandaris says:

    If San Francisco found the tickets invalid with no contract then how can Tucson justify tickets under the same conditions? What a crock!

  24. Sure says:

    CF Attorney Needs help:

    CameraFRAUD.com

    Phoenix, AZ
    1,122 Volunteers

    Welcome to CameraFRAUD. We are united in our effort to get rid of every speed camera, red light camera, and photo radar van here in Arizona and across the country. We were suc…

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  25. Sure says:

    From Redflex Annual Report:

    MARKETING COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES

    In Illinois we partnered with our customers and supporters to: manage the media interface; develop a group of advocates to write letters to the editor; blog on a micro‐site about street safety; and be ready to testify in committee hearings before the state legislature. This led to positive news coverage, citizen support and new positive legislation supported by the City of Chicago, as well as other Illinois customers.

    In Arizona an opposition group attempted to get an all‐out road safety camera ban on the ballot for November 2010. We undertook an extensive grassroots and media effort including the support of the creation of the Safer Arizona Roads Alliance. The ban initiative failed to gain sufficient support to be placed on the November ballot.

    We continue to work in each of the states in which we do business at a grassroots level to add supporters of our programs in both the public and private sectors, primarily with police and firefighters associations, health care professionals and with government affairs officials.

    We have added a Director of Public Information who is tasked with supporting all of our customers’ public information efforts relating to the benefits of road safety cameras.

  26. Andy says:

    so I got one of the tickets during this time period. Did the lawsuit go forward, do we still have to pay? Whats going on.??

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