Red light cameras increase accidents

Channel 2 news (KCBS/KCAL) in Los Angeles did some excellent investigative reporting on the impact of red light cameras in LA. The LA Police Department claims that the red light cameras make the streets safer, but the investigative reporters looked at the data themselves and came to the opposite conclusion: red light cameras actually increase accidents. Check out the entire report in the video below.

When they contacted the LA PD, the department became very defensive, telling Channel 2 reporters “The City would hope it’s the goal of KCBS/KCAL to discuss the positive aspects of the City’s Automated Photo Red Light Program.”

The LA PD then charged the news outlet over $500 to access crash data at LA intersections, after receiving a Public Information Records Request.

Channel 2 news analyzed crash data before cameras were installed and afterwards. They found that most intersections had accidents increase, by up to 3 times the amount of accidents that occurred before.

So if the cameras aren’t increasing the safety on roads, what are they for? It’s all about the money, just as Dr. John Large concluded, who is a professor at the University of South Florida.

Thanks to RPr for the tip.

24 Responses to Red light cameras increase accidents

  1. Jury Nullification says:

    Today i drove past another scamera van on the Carefree Hwy W.B. just before the highway interchange.

    These cowards were literally parked 5 feet from the speed change sign 45mph. Can you say speed trap? I will be carrying my camera tomorrow to photograph their misdeeds.

    Their stock price is tanking and they know the people will vote them out Nov. 2nd. Things are getting desperate for them.

  2. LAPD has been spending a lot of time on our site lately. I am surprised they have nothing to say here so far.

  3. oh boy says:

    Great video! You can’t fool CBS2. Also, see the second story on this.( to our red light report) LA city council is already responding to the story.(LA cops are on the carpet-LA city council wants ANSWERS to their lies about accident reduction)
    Also, check out their stories about all of the other CA cities that are doing away with the RLC’s.
    I have forwarded these stories to all of our local TV stations so maybe they can learn something.

  4. Mike Waters says:

    Why go for these half measures?

    There is MUCH more money to be made with other cameras:

    Parents Angry Over CCTV In School Toilets

    Sure there are a few dweebs who will whine about “rights” and “privacy”, but there is a whole lot of money here!

    • LoneWolf says:

      I’m sure the paeds would pay lots of money for those types of vids. Should we create an online poll and see? (I know that’s disgusting to some, but it’s a valid point)

      Someone on AZ Central keeps asking what the difference is between photo enforcement and security cameras. Easy answer: $$$$$

    • LoneWolf says:

      I can think of a huge list of things cameras can be useful for and make money yet besides. With facial recognition cameras, they can catch people spitting on the sidewalks, smoking too close to an entrance, cussing in public, stepping off the sidewalk and onto the road, drinking and walking, littering, etc etc… then fine everyone according to the violation. And if every car had a camera, they could catch just about anything and everything and make tons of money off of simple little mistakes. Security cameras in stores can be set up in dressing rooms where they can both capture shoplifters and market the vids to the voyeur films distributors.. then the ones looking down on the aisles can catch people loitering (looking at a product for more than 5 minutes) and impose a fine before they leave. So much $$$$ potential… Let’s not forget those x-ray scanners at airports. Tune them so they’ll scan just beneath the clothes, then turn those into cameras and then they’ll be raking in billions every year from the voyeur and paed markets.

  5. fishbert says:

    I like how each of those advertisement crashes were recorded with red light cameras. It’s like the camera companies are trying to promote how they *don’t* prevent crashes.

    Also, here’s the news website relating to that video… complete with link to interactive map.

    • Brent says:

      Yeah- amazing how they portray their ‘product’ as being about safety and then simply demonstrate their it’s effectiveness by showing car crashes.. Brilliant marketers..

  6. oh boy says:

    Good Grief, now they have some STOP SIGN cameras in California. Where will it end? Good thing the AZ scameras are going away in November!

  7. oh boy says:

    WoW! Check out Redflex’s drop in stock value today! Does that BIG HOLE have a bottom???????

    • Brent says:

      Reflex stock is down 69.9% in the last 90 days alone.

      This translates to $118 Million of market capitalization which has evaporated since right before the holidays..

      • LoneWolf says:

        Ouch, that’s gotta hurt.. wonder if it’ll rise back up as soon as all the shareholders and investors get word that Redflex is changing its strategy with the help of APCO and the newly formed coalition. My guess is that those might also have a negative impact on stock because the potential investors and shareholders may see the company as currently being highly insecure..

        • Brent says:

          It will really hurt when organizations like ours expose the ‘coalition’ for who are what they are as we enter the election season.

          • LoneWolf says:

            The puzzle’s coming together nicely from what I see. I don’t think Heiler will be able to send the media on a different chomping mission once we reveal some certain truths, lies, and deceptions.

  8. Brent says:

    Even Californians are started to wake up to Photo Enforcement Fraud! Way to go LA!

    Amazing how the list of cities in CA & FL that have booted out the ATS/Redflex pirates continues to grow! I think that when these fraudulent companies lose Arizona in November, it will be the tipping point and that some of the more out of touch governments in liberal states like Oregon and Illinois will then begin to follow suit also..

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  10. Sure says:

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  11. Graham says:

    I view this site every day. So, I’m expert / aware about the scameras, right? Nope, I got flashed on the 17 going home yesterday. 66 in a 55. I’m so dumb. Statistically, what are the chances I am going to contribute to Big Sisters projected 90 million?

    • Brent says:

      The odds that the cameras successfully captured your image are only 50-75% in the first place. If your visor is down and the face is unidentifiable your odds are further reduced (of getting a nasty-gram in the mail).

      If you get it in the mail, you obviously know what to do (and not do) since you read CF all the time..

  12. A Florida committe just voted in favor of a bill to eliminate cameras in the state. It passed 7-5, though two committees have favored another bill pro cameras, 28-0. Still, step in the right direction. Also, we have a Rep, Janet Cruz who voted for cameras and her daughter works for a camera company….

  13. B says:

    “It passed 7-5, though two committees have favored another bill pro cameras, 28-0.”
    This sounds like the bill to ban cameras is where they’re tackling the issue itself – “Do you believe in the system as a safety measure?” The other two bills sound like appropriations line items – “Do you want the money from the existing cameras?”

  14. bike girl says:

    actually a report out today found the channel 2 study was wrong. data from crashes unrelated to lights was included.

    they actually significantly decreased the number of fatal crashes.

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