Thank YOU!

Please share your favorite moments during the Showdown at High Noon with Sheriff Babeu. This is an open forum. Bravo!

63 Responses to Thank YOU!

  1. Jolene says:

    You should all be ashamed! The statistics show that photo radar reduces collisions AND fatalities. Who cares if it makes someone some money in the process? It’s still saving lives and I, for one, apreciate being able to get on the freway (near a camera) without fearing for my family’ slife because everyone is actually honoring the speed limit. Slow down, follow the law (the speed limit) and you won’t receive a tocket. Pretty easy!

    • Will Kay says:

      Those statistics and polls are paid for by ATS and Redflex Jolene, it’s a documented fact. Always consider the source. Again, there are thousands of miles of roadway here in Arizona, and a few dozen cameras are the ONLY reason for saving everyones life every day? Please. That’s the most irrational logic I’ve ever heard. I love how you camera supporters talk about “speeders” as if they are the most violent criminals known to man. Quit being so self righteously judgemental.

    • CameraHater says:

      Hey, Jolene! Honey, what happens to your blissful interstate run, when the limit comes down and down.. and you are forced to stick to a 30 mph limit on a freeway in perfect driving conditions?? Think it couldn’t happen??? I am from the nasty little Nanny State, Australia, where that is EXACTLY what is planned! (blanket 20 mph in the city, 30 mph on freeways) I reckon you and your family will be less blissed out when it takes days to travel what used to take just a few hours. You need to stop being so naive, and look at just WHY super-low limits are being applied. Answer, to make private transport less viable, and the population therefore more controllable.

      Also, as Will suggests, the focus on speeders as the country’s master criminals, is diverting resources from real law enforcement AND alienating law abiding citizens to boot.

      You need to think seriously about this “the law is the law, and must be obeyed unquestioningly” attitude. It is VERY un-American. And, lets not forget, the Holocaust, the Killing Fields of Cambodia… WERE 100% legal under the laws of those countries at the time. I am not an anarchist, but I think you need to think about those elements that made the US truly great.

    • James says:

      Statistics SHOULD show that U.S. drivers don’t have the proper skills to navigate our highways. How about proper driver education? Slower traffic keep right? I can’t count how many people were camped in the left lane today on the highway. Driving is not merging onto a highway and parking your left blinker until you are all the way over in the far left lane with no one to your right. Pull the blinders off, learn proper driving techniques and we’ll all be safer.


    • JOKN says:

      I came up with a great idea Jolene you drive the speed limit and the rest of us will pull down our sun visor “no pic of face” witch is needed” and together we’ll both put redflex out of Bussiness “OK”

    • B says:

      Anyone that thinks that DPS’s bullshat half-truths they call statistics aren’t having an effect on the public needs to just look at “Jolene” here. I’ve been saying it for months – that’s the train they’re going to ride to the end of the tracks… “See?? The DPS statistics PROVE IT! There’s NO discussion possible now – cameras cut accidents and save lives!!”

      BTW, “Jolene” – take a look at and think for a moment about what it says. And about what it says about DPS and their truthiness…

    • drew says:

      You can see the full Showdown Video with Sheriff Paul Babeu @ SCAMERAFRAUD.BLIP.TV

  2. Sure says:

    Please, Jolene, cite those studies for us.

  3. Sure says:

    Protest photos:

    Phoenix, AZ
    1,121 Volunteers

    Welcome to CameraFRAUD. We are united in our effort to get rid of every speed camera, red light camera, and photo radar van here in Arizona and across the country. We were suc…

    Check out this Meetup Group →

  4. Ron says:

    Lol at Jolene, she buys the propaganda hook line and sinker..


    I agree with Jolene, I’m glad that each time I get on the highway that the cameras are there and that my drive will be much safer. All of you at CF are wasting your time trying to fight a loosing battle. Your time would be better spent raising donations for Red Means Stop or the 100 Club. We have men, women & children loosing their lives everyday in car accidents, by red light runners & speeders. Do you really think that the 60 or so people that showed up for you little “show down” today is going to make a difference? I think today shows you loud and clear that the majority of Arizonians want the cameras to stay. Put it on the ballot in Nov. I dare you & when you loose STFU and do something worthwhile with you time. CF obviously doesn’t care about the men & women risking thier lives in Iraq and Afghanistan or here at home fighting crime instead of chasing speeders. This entire website is just a joke.

    • Will Kay says:

      I am a Marine Corps veteran CFURWASTINGURTIME, and many of our member are veterans as well. Don’t you dare judge us as being unpatriotic! If you feel that scared getting behind the wheel of an automobile then don’t drive! You make it sound as though a few dozen cameras are responsible for saving countless lives, which is simply not the case. Money and a 24 hour surveillance network is what these systems are about. Photo radar has NEVER survived a citizen vote. Do you work for Redfux by any chance? You won’t be for much longer.


        No I don’t work there & if you’re so patriotic why would you put innocent people out of a job? Aren’t the people who work there americans & citizen of AZ? What a heartless unpatriotic person you and all of CF are. You should ALL be ashamed of yourselves!

        • keystone fake-cops says:

          It’s “unpatriotic” to want the laws to be enforced by trained law enforcement officers instead of an Australian corporation. Officially the dumbest argument of the thread.

    • LoneWolf says:

      Photo enforcement has never survived a vote. Cameras don’t keep the roads safer. Real cops do. Cameras allow dangerous criminals to slip on by. If a cop pulls someone over for speeding and discovers the driver is intoxicated, doesn’t have insurance, acts suspicious, or whatever, he goes to jail or gets slapped with a hefty fine.

      And FYI, our soldiers and veterans risked or gave their lives so we Americans can continue to live in freedom. The US constitution guarantees that freedom. Photo enforcement goes down the path of government control, tyranny, and corporate America prying more into the lives of American citizens. Unless you don’t believe in everything the stars and stripes stands for, you might consider moving to the very country we broke free of on July 4th 1776. You’ll enjoy the company of cameras there. They’re everywhere. The US must NOT follow in the footsteps of those foolish countries where citizens are selling their freedom for so called safety and security. I certainly won’t stand for it!

    • SD Anderson says:

      A single person can make a difference to every person on this planet. What makes you think 60 people can’t make a difference in Arizona? (There were a lot more than that, but feel free to entertain yourself)

    • Stacey says:

      Listen, bitter Redflex employee, I am sorry you didn’t get to work yeserday as Redflex shut down for the day, but get used to it because Redflex will be shutting down the cameras soon.

      On that note, I really don’t tink you want to attack the veterans her at camerafraud. Not in your best interest.


        Stacey I don’t work there and I don’t work weekends so save it for someone who cares about you opinion because I don’t. I’m not attacking anyone but the cold heartless people of CF…inclucing yourself.

    • Malfeasant says:

      keep it up- the desperate pleas for us to quit only confirms how much of threat we are…

    • photoradarscam says:

      There were far more than 60, but even so, it’s a lot more than the 3 people at the Red Means Stop “protest.”

      In all of the news stories, did you notice how the cameras did NOTHING to stop the red light crashes shown? I can’t think of a better way to show how cameras DON’T work than to show an accident photographed by a camera.

      And do you care to explains why accidents DOUBLED in Peoria at red light camera locations? Tell me again how well they are working…

    • guttersn1pe says:

      CFUR –

      “…wasting your time trying to fight a loosing battle.”

      “I dare you & when you loose STFU…”

      It’s spelled losing or lose. Is this the best Redflex has to offer?

    • B says:

      Ok – how many Redflex guys are going to come on here and do this?

      If you are a real Arizonan – take a look at and think about it before assuming that DPS (and the camera company) has your best interests in mind.

  6. drew says:


  7. Drew says:

    Full Pesser video

  8. JD Sweeney says:

    CFUR: I have no idea what the war in Iraq or Afghanistan has to do with photo radar and I don’t think you do either. Yes, people die everyday in this country from accidents, DUI drivers, slipping in bath tubs, etc. That is a fact of life and neither you or Redflex or Red Means Stop or the Red Cross can prevent that. It doesn’t matter that only 60 people showed up to protest. You weren’t there so you can’t comment on what we saw, can you? 90% of the drivers who passed by honked their horns and gave a thumbs up. The majority of Arizonian’s don’t support photo radar. Only 30% even bother responding to this nonsense when sent a citation in the mail. As far as a ballot initiative is concerned, bring it baby! The joke is on you CFUR!

  9. SD Anderson says:

    I posted a link to some pics and a 48 minute video of the Showdown on the meetup board for whoever’s interested.

  10. James says:

    I took quite a few pictures during the event, where do I post them, who do I send them to?


  11. JD Sweeney says:

    For all of the sheeple’s who scoff at the 60 or so people who showed up for Saturday’s protest I have only one thing to say. Only 56 people signed the Declaration of Independence in 1776. Your taskmasters have convinced you that there is not a damn thing you can do about whatever they choose to ram down your throats. I would rather stand on the side of the road protesting for hours with other like minded American’s than spend two minutes listening to you whine, wring your hands and tell me, ” There is nothing we can do about it! ” I bet the signers of the Declaration heard that same song over 200 years ago.

  12. Sure says:

    New ch 15 story with Shawn Dow and John Wintersteen:

  13. Sure says:

    Lots of new pictures and videos:

    Phoenix, AZ
    1,121 Volunteers

    Welcome to CameraFRAUD. We are united in our effort to get rid of every speed camera, red light camera, and photo radar van here in Arizona and across the country. We were suc…

    Check out this Meetup Group →

  14. Dr Jett says:

    Better to be thought of as a fool before you open your mouth and prove it. The largest cause of highway deaths is the enforcement programs currently in place that kill an additional 5000 Americans on our highways each year. Go to and to get an education about how illicit traffic law enforcement is killing more Americans in the USA than the other ‘war’. The ‘war’ in Iraq and Afganistan is a diversion that ignorant people like you look at instead of the ‘war for freedom in America’ that we are fighting at CF. Wake up before there is no one left to protest like in Nazi Germany.

  15. Stacey says:

    Come on Mr. Wintersteen, keep telling us how these cameras decrease accidents. There were two rollover accidents at this camera in a week! Not a word from DPS about it.

  16. SD Anderson says:

    One of my favorite moments at the protest was seeing a lady in a wheelchair holding a sign in protest of the scameras. I thought only the people who like to speed were against photo enforcement. Someone has some serious explaining to do….

    Hats off to her. You go girl!

  17. Steve D says:

    you can tell the redflex employees getting on here to support their job. I wonder what its like to know that your going to lose your job soon and you cant put redflex on your resume. I would be spending a lot of time thinking of ways to come up with what your going to tell your interviewer about the gap in employment history. You know if you tell them you worked for reflex you wont get the job.

  18. Jim says:

    To all of you, Redflex employees. I know you are there to make money and feed your families, but how dare you? How can you look a neighbor straight in the face? How can you call yourselves Americans? If you have any pride or respect, please go find another job and stop cheating Americans. Remember, what goes around, comes around.

  19. RPr says:

    Even our children reach for freedom...

    my favorite photo from the protest

  20. Marsh says:

    Most of the folks I have talked to who like the speed cameras are serial speeders. They know they can drive as fast as they want on the freeways since the speed cameras were installed. There are far fewer police officers and it’s easy to just cover your face in some manner when you speed by a camera. Not to mention the tickets can just be ignored. That’s pretty alarming.

    These speed cameras are dangerous. I’m not sure how I feel about the red light cams though.

    • B says:

      When you talk to those folks, remind them of point-to-point enforcement that is coming as soon as Redflex has the political capital built up. The speeding between cameras is going to end… and by then, the shackles will be on too tight for those Arizonans to stand up and say anything in protest…

  21. B says:

    Not to be a Debbie Downer, but the only frustrating part about the coverage by local news stations is that they ALWAYS re-gurgitate the gerrymandered DPS statistics, and follow it up with a clip of Vanderpool and/or Wintersteen – two of the best Redflex shills on the books. I just want those news people to discuss the problems with those DPS statistics honestly and openly, instead of blindly accepting them as indisputable.

    BTW – It’s no secret why Redflex picked Wintersteen as the guy to go to the AZ Supreme Court… They needed a law enforcement official to offset the legal cache that Sheriff Babeu brings to the table.

    The Redflex PR machine rolls on.

    On the bright side, it’s ALWAYS good to see this group making an impact. Let’s keep up the pressure!

    • LoneWolf says:

      Vanderpool is no longer director of DPS so I don’t think his word holds much water anymore. He’s the one that keeps bringing up the same stats over and over. It seems to be his only defense of PR along with “it frees up officers”.

      Wintersteen was chief of police for Paradise Valley which has a relatively small population compared to Phoenix, Glendale, Mesa, Tempe, Scottsdale, etc. Whose word should people trust more? A small-town retired police chief or a county sheriff? And let’s not forget that it was in PV where one of the red-light camera scams took place resulting in the refund of thousands of tickets.

  22. B says:

    I was just doing a scan of the Legislature bills to ban photo radar, and they’ve all hit the same walls they hit last year.

    I don’t know what the obstruction is in the Senate, but Kirk Adams isn’t letting any of them come to a full House vote. He’s a pro-camera guy now… Who knows what they paid him.

    What a coward… I can’t believe his Democrat opponent in the 2010 election isn’t jumping on this (of course, this is assuming that any Dems have any spine at all and want to give a posthumous finger to Janet)…

  23. johny says:

    i wonder why redflex employees are so loyal. redflex pays salaries that are WELL under market, or so i’ve been told by people that work there.

    • JD Sweeney says:

      Maybe they think they are doing a service to the community? If I worked for Redflex I’d be so ashamed I wouldn’t tell anyone. LOL

  24. DejahVU says:

    I have no problem obeying the speed limit its the speed limit changing from 55 to 65 within a 3 to 5 mile stretch of road! Thats highway robbery! Make a decision and post ONE speed limit… They got us going 67 where the signed had changed from 65 to 55 early in the morning on the way to family in East Mesa on Thanksgiving day at 2:30 am. Not a soul was on the road? The location is I-17 mile post 195! Rediculous… Its ONE BIG MONEY PIT! And thats all. We are from California and the locals (Arizonians) know where to do the dance of speeding up and slowing down we didn’t? Its happend twice? We’ve been over 4 times and 2 of those times its cost us $200 extra for the trip. Why not employ actual police officers. This doesn’t seem legal.

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