Buck Up And Support AZ Citizens Against Photo Radar!


Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu will be the guest speaker and Michael Easterday will serve up the music as  San Tan Flat Bar & Grill plays gracious hosts and have an outstanding menu so come hungry. The date is Thursday February 18th and the gates will open at 5 p.m. The festivities will begin at 6 p.m.

Thank you San Tan Flat!

A $25.00 donation on www.arizonacitizensagainstphotoradar.com gets your name on the guest list and $50.00 is good for two and so on.

Proceeds will be used to further the public awareness campaign of the abuses and dangers of Photo Traffic Enforcement and educate about the “Ban Photo Enforcement” ballot initiative. Basically folks, we need advertising dollars.

The emcee has not been announced but that will be coming very soon.

Please come out to support us and have fun. After all is said and done it should be a blast and a great chance to meet some interesting and like-minded folks.

40 Responses to Buck Up And Support AZ Citizens Against Photo Radar!

  1. RPr says:

    the cameras are coming down!

  2. Stacey says:

    Dinner and drinks is at an additional cost and is not included in the $25.00 donation. San Tan Flat has a variety of meu items including steaks and hamburgers that are ground daily.

  3. kandaris says:

    I’ll be there. San Tan Flat is a GREAT place! I live very near there. They have a good steak dinner for about 10 Bucks with all the trimmings and a great bar. One word of advice… get there early, this is a very popular place.

  4. Jason N. says:

    Well, I guess I am going to splurge in my spending and get out there with my daughter…. I think that is one heck of a drive for me, but what the heck… It supports one of the best causes that I know of….

  5. RPr says:

    the booth at Country thunder costs $700

  6. Matt says:

    News to you Captain Obvious. Tell me how the camera would have stopped his supposed “excessive speed” violation, or the stop sign violation or the “local traffic charge”. It would NOT have! Wow. A picture of an alleged violation. That did a whole lot of good to public safety. Everybody has skeletons in their closet. And I mean EVERYBODY.

  7. B says:

    Hey – guess what, world? I’ve received a speeding ticket before in my life – and I’ve gone to… TRAFFIC SCHOOL! (And no, it wasn’t a photo ticket.) I’ve also volunteered for Camerafraud.com and put in a lot of time helping out. I guess that means that you should just forget all of the arguments and smugly point at my driving record – and overlook ALL of the evidence that has been compiled against the cameras, and say, “Screw you, Camerafraud!” – right??

    ProCamera, you’re a really well-paid Redflex/ATS shill or an incredibly bitter tool. Either way, the content in your post, true or not, gives absolutely no reason for people to not support this cause.

    Whether Shawn Dow got a ticket or not means nothing to me – and it shouldn’t matter to anyone with a lick of sense. This isn’t ShawnDow.com. This is Camerafraud.com – a large and concerned group of people who are against the cameras for the many reasons we’ve posted a thousand times.

    Really… What an arrogant and stupid emotional plea you just made. Do you actually think we should just turn our back on the cause that Camerafraud advocates because one of us has received a traffic ticket? Frankly, I find your logic an insult to my intelligence.

    Heck – If we made choices based on emotions or fears, we’d probably listen to you because we’d be pro-camera types who are paranoid of other drivers. We’d be susceptible to your (and Redflex’s/Jay Heiler’s) fearmongering and trivial details like one man’s driving record.

    Most camerafraud members, OTOH, see the real story going on. We see the corporate profit taking by Redflex. We can foresee the breadth and scope of the system envisioned by Redflex – a nation-wide traffic (and eventually national security) enforcement system looking for “criminals” – all while making a hefty profit. We see through the silver tongued Jay Heiler’s gentle-toned, “We’re just here to enforce the law. Just… slow… down…”, BS mantras that he repeats for the 90IQ crowd to chirp in their arguments for the cameras. We see through the half truths and bogus statistics put out my DPS and repeated in the news. We see the real narcissistic motives of the pro-camera crowd – many of whom just want everyone to drive like THEM.

    We believe in a free Arizona where people can be trusted to do the right thing on the roads – without it being a scene from “Blood Runs Red on the Highway”. We believe that humanity can stand on its own two feet and survive without government surveillance (i.e. mental oppression). We believe in common sense law enforcement decided upon by HUMANS (we want Andy Taylor, not an electronic Barney Fife). We believe in a world where we can enjoy the PRIVILEGE of privacy on the road – without fear of corporate-driven retribution masked in “automated morality”.

    Anyone that believes in photo enforcement either doesn’t believe in the above – and must admit so – or they haven’t looked past their own simplistic (and historically ill-fated) arguments, like, “I don’t speed, so I don’t mind them.”

    Bottom line: “The truth shall set you free…” and that’s all Camerafraud offers – the truth. Fund raising like this is vital to getting the WHOLE truth out there, and you would have us abandon truth and focus on one man’s driving habits…

    • ProCamera says:

      B,

      My comment was posted here for multiple reasons.

      1. I posted the comment on another article in which degrading twitter comments were highlighted of a person that was linked by their screen name to a facebook account in which the facebook account holder claimed that they were employed by ATS. Obviously, the person that was posting under the CameraFraudAZ name on twitter took the time to research this person, search the name in facebook, make the correlation and then felt the need to post their banter on an article on this site.

      I posted my findings about the head of Arizona Citizens Against Photo Radar. Which I did because the CamerafraudAZ person said that they have never received a red light ticket before, so I deiced to show that the head of the organization did in fact get multiple tickets, one of which was a stop sign violation. And my post was removed (twice). So I chose to try to post the info on this article, mostly in disgust that the site is censoring infomation that they feel is hurtful to their cause.

      • ProCamera,

        I am not Shawn Dow. He does not post articles on this blog. I am also not the site moderator, but I can “unallow” comments. I don’t know why you feel the need to post that information about citations and there is more than one person with that name in Arizona, so where would you like to go with this? I advise treading lightly on this subject because you are now making accusations.

        If you continue to post that information, your IP address will be banned.

        I am giving you a warning.

      • Stacey says:

        Well, Procamera, why don’t you tell us your real name so we can look at your driving record?

      • Dr Jett says:

        Procamera,
        Why are there 0 tickets listed since 2003? That doesn’t impress me as much of a record for a lawbreaker. How many tickets have you received in the last 13 years?

    • B says:

      Seriously – You’re not being deleted for the crazy hot news you’ve posted. You’re being deleted for being a trolling tool…

      On #1 – I see nothing wrong with what was posted there. That’s the Facebook poster’s fault for not protecting his own privacy and understanding the public nature of internet communications media like Twitter. (The irony of a pro-camera person complaining about the “injustice” of someone being exposed for something incredibly infantile and stupid they did… I don’t even know where to begin… but I digress…)

      Also, technically, he wasn’t lying and you’re incorrect. A red light intersection isn’t the same as a stop sign intersection. (And before you assume most people would agree with you about the heinous nature of “running” a stop sign, don’t forget how many people have “run” a stop sign with a California stop and have received a ticket from rookie Officer Smith…) I don’t think those voters will appreciate the serious nature of your “scandalous news”.

      Regardless of this common sense, which is the real basis for you being deleted, you go ahead and put it out there and see what happens. (That’s most likely your plan anyways, regardless of whether the Twitter article is taken down or not.)

      And don’t forget this – it won’t stop the cause here in the slightest.

  8. photoradarscam says:

    And I will add that it is preposterous to suggest that Shawn Down is spending and donating hundreds and thousands of hours of volunteer time just so he can “drive fast and not get caught.” Not only is the effort/reward not there to support your claim, but it also doesn’t make sense. Anyone who likes to exceed the posted limit LOVES the cameras because a) their locations are known b) the locations are well marked c) they can easily be thwarted with simple measures like masks and d) if you do get a ticket, there’s a good chance you won’t be served. It’s MUCH EASIER to exceed the posted limit now and not get caught.

    Your claim fails EVERY logic test. Try again.

  9. LoneWolf says:

    The difference between Shawn Dow’s activity and that of employees from Redflex or ATS is that Shawn has nothing to do with law enforcement. He is a citizen just like any other citizen and he is prone to breaking the law just like any other. None of us claim to be perfect. But the scamera companies and their employees are expected to hold higher standards because, after all, they are in a position of helping to enforce certain laws of this state. If they want to be just like cops, then they need to be treated as such. They need to set the example just like real cops do. They need to follow every single law just like real cops do. When they break a law, they’ll be exposed to the public just like real cops are. This is how we expose corruption.

  10. Stacey says:

    Wow! Did a cop stop him or a camera?????????

    Jay Heiler, Redflex Director of Government Affairs brags, “Cameras are less intrusive,” “Motorists quietly get a ticket in the mail instead of being stopped and interrogated for 25 minutes while their car is examined and their documents are checked.

    Procamera reminds us all that employees of a private corporation have access to your DMV records. SCAREY!

    Of course, Procameracould be someone from Jimmy Hoffa’s organization, sorry I meant to say Jimmy chavez’z brotherhood which is hell bent on getting their pay raises!

  11. jgunn says:

    Ad hominem dude. Why bother to dispute the facts when you can attack the person directly:

    “An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument toward the person” or “argument against the person”) is an argument which links the validity of a premise to an irrelevant characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise. In other words, it is an argument which attacks the individual rather than the argument that individual is presenting.”

    Pretty sad that you have nothing further to argue and have resorted to desperate last measures. Have fun when the gubmint bans cameras on the freeways soon. And better yet when it comes to a vote and they get banned statewide.

  12. Stacey says:

    This guy used to post this information over at AZ Republic and they deleted his posts.

    This boy loves us. If he wasn’t posting here, he wouldn’t have a life.

  13. Stacey says:

    I bet there are people who work at Redflex and ATS who use extortion on CDL drivers and other drivers to make money.

    Hell, if they are like Procamera they could do other things with your records.

  14. Stacey says:

    Ch 5 story:

    Drivers Ignoring Photo Radar Tickets Targeted

    http://www.kpho.com/traffic/22338889/detail.html

    Poor ole Janet Brewer, she will never get voted back in!

    • Will Kay says:

      I’m not voting for her.

    • B says:

      Everyone needs to remember to send a short and concise “public comment” to the Arizona State Supreme Court explaining why this service by First Class Mail is a bad idea.

      BTW – I was disappointed that Channel 5 last night made NO mention of how Redflex is the source of this petition THROUGH that PV police chief.

      • JOKN says:

        Courts do not legislate only enforce whats written , the legislature needs to change this option , we’ll see what happens?

  15. Will Kay says:

    If I ever get one in the mail it’s going to be stamped “RETURN TO SENDER – NO CONTRACT” on it. It’s perfectly legal and in agreement with the Uniform Commercial Code. They have to abide by those words and there’s no way around it.

  16. Ramona says:

    This website is great. I hope the movement is successful. Personally I don’t drive but I feel that these cameras, with as much revenue as they generate, are really just for the money. It isn’t about safety but profit…
    Good luck everyone in AZ.

    • Thanks Ramona! Your support is appreciated! They don’t just affect motorists, the impact is being felt on the court system also, as it is completely overwhelmed by photo citations.

  17. RPr says:

    Redflex Traffic Systems of Phoenix, Ariz., arranged to pay Bryan Wagner, a former New Orleans City Council member, 3.2 percent of the cash it expects to make off fines from drivers at 11 intersections adorned with cameras, according to a Redflex letter to parish attorney Tom Wilkinson.

    Roberts said he will ask his colleagues Wednesday to suspend the program, which has been in place since October 2007 and has collected more than $19.7 million in fines.

    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2010/01/red_light_cameras_under_attack.html

  18. Sure says:

    Redflex in Louisiana

    CameraFRAUD.com

    Phoenix, AZ
    1,122 Volunteers

    Welcome to CameraFRAUD. We are united in our effort to get rid of every speed camera, red light camera, and photo radar van here in Arizona and across the country. We were suc…

    Check out this Meetup Group →

  19. Pls help out an OL’ friend in the flat state and home to the most incarcerated GOV’s,ryan,walker,shapiro,soon to be blago. Ex-con,former city clerk,JAMES LASKI or redlight Laski has promised on air @wls to present us with a legal,valid petition to abolish redlight ticket law. We could use any help you have to offer! CONGRATS on getting this far in ARIZONA, no matter how bad you got it you would not believe the misuse of these buggers in Illinois. thanks for the read. GOOD LUCK

    • You people rock in AZ-what a great website.We just got off the phone w/ WGN 720AM,JOHN WILLIAMS will have us on today thur 28th to discuss REDLIGHT LASKI’s promise to ‘drive the bus’ in following your lead at REPEAL of redlight enforcement statewide. Sure you got crooks in your government,in ILLINOIS the entire system is EVIL called the COMBINE. good luck on the VOTE.

  20. Martin says:

    I found this website as I was doing some research about my own issues and while it deals mostly with California law, I think it’s also relevant to what’s going on here in Arizona and other parts of the country. Upon reading what the author had to say, it was this last portion of the article that I found most sobering (my comments/additions are in brackets):

    “The corporations [Redflex and ATS in Arizona’s case, right?] and cities that sponsor automated enforcement programs expect and need drivers to continue running red lights [and speeding] to keep the program profitable. It seems perverse that a system marketed to improve traffic safety can only survive if it does not succeed.

    If automated enforcement were truly capable of stopping drivers from running red lights [or speeding], it would soon do so and become UNPROFITABLE. Does anyone honestly believe that private corporations are investing millions of dollars in a system whose success will soon render it obsolete?”

    No matter what you’re current stance on the issue, whether you believe that the automated enforcement system truly makes the streets safer or not, how can you possibly say that the government’s primary motivation with this type of program isn’t to make money by pulling the wool over our eyes and preying upon people’s ignorance and apathy? This program is so blatantly implemented not in the public’s best interests, but in the financial interests of the corporations and cities that support it. Safer or not, how can anyone possibly support any government or program that obviously thinks so little of the intelligence of it’s people?

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