Redflex says NO to Firearms

If you’ve been by Redflex HQ lately, you might have noticed some new signage at every entrance, front and back. The signs, seen here, prohibit visitors from bringing guns into the building. If you’re not from Arizona, that might sound a little odd to you, but Arizona is an Open Carry state, and it’s presumed that pretty much everyone has quick access to a gun.

Given the tragedy that occurred earlier this year, and the unpopular nature of the service provided, it’s no surprise that Redflex doesn’t want any guns on their premises. Even before the shooting and statewide photo enforcement program, one could never simply walk in to Redflex, but had to be ‘buzzed in’ if they wanted to enter the building. Clearly, Redflex is concerned about safety in their offices.

That’s all well and good, but the point here is this signage illustrates how poorly Redflex understands the law here in Arizona. The signage seen on the doors at Redflex cite ARS § 4-229, and were created in response to a law passed earlier this year that allowed Arizonans to carry firearms into bars. If the bar owners didn’t want people bringing guns into their establishments, they simply posted a sign. But Arizona businesses have always had the option of prohibiting firearms on their premises, and Title 4 of the ARS regulates Alcoholic Beverages. Is Redflex selling alcohol to employees? Or does Redflex simply not understand how laws work here in Arizona?

It’s disturbing to see that DP$ is in bed with a company that tries to enforce laws that they don’t fully understand.

18 Responses to Redflex says NO to Firearms

  1. Well with all of the used car batteries and propane grills they like to keep at HQ, I can understand why guns would be dangerous to keep on their premises.

  2. robertharris47 says:

    I am From Texas. People in Texas are starting to believe this is more about nationalization of our police forces in america. Step One- let corporations takeover city and state police enforcement. Step two- Government then takes over the corporations claiming abuse by the corporations and thereby exstablishing a national police force. We Only believe this because it is happening in other countries as we speak. Same companies in most cases.

  3. Dr Jett says:

    The ‘tragedy’ is that some misguided, upset individual didn’t realize that the way to kill a snake is to cut off the head, not the tail. Working for a company that robs the citizens of America is a job for traitors that may receive their just rewards. That is why they all hide from the cameras that patriots point at them.
    Gathering signatures for our petition to end photo radar in 2010 is the best way to put an end to this tyranny by our government and foreign corporations. This is how you cut off the head of the snake. All we need is to get all of the lazy ‘members by only signing up’ to realize that God expects people that believe in him to act. Put your actions behind your beliefs and you become real if you truly want to be a member of or quit and admit that you don’t care. Redflex only wins by citizen apathy.
    A sign won’t stop someone with intent from coming through even if that person starts by shooting out the windows to enter Redflex. Since Redflex ignores and violates the Federal Regulations that govern our highways along with their partners in crime DPS, etc. then why would you expect them to understand any other laws in America

  4. guttersn1pe says:

    While I don’t speak for CF, I believe all those interested in the topic of photo enforcement are welcome, regardless of their level of committment.

  5. fjrllc says:

    That’s one thing I miss about California. It was a pain to get a concealed handgun license there, but once you have the license, “no guns” signs are illegal and unforceable!

    Here in Texas I’ve only seen one lawful “no guns” sign since moving to the state.

    In any case, Redflex’s anti-gun stance is no surprise given the fact that their entire business model is based on enabling a police state.

  6. Big Gay AL says:

    It seems to me, if that sign is citing a prohibition based on alcohol being served on the premises, then it’s an invalid sign, is it not?

  7. Mike says:

    No, any “no firearms” sign which is clearly visible at an entrance is valid. Somebody probably just found this one online and printed it out.

  8. Matt G says:

    What do you expect fron a Austrialian company ? The Austrailians were dissarmed by thier Govt years ago and have been paying for it since with higher crime rates.

    They can post a no firearms sign since it is private property, but because they have posted one persuant to the ARS dealing with resturants, it is not valid since they don’t have a either a resturant or liquor license.

  9. Stacey says:

    Call to Redflex

  10. Stacey says:

    Trying Again

  11. Stacey says:

    Sorry for the repeat. The internet was just taking its sweet time!

    I am just going to post thisone to be obnoxious

  12. Kevin says:

    Actually Matt G is correct. Because they have chosen to cite an Arizona revised statute which is not applicable to that particular business, this renders the sign null and void. They would have been on better legal ground to just post “no firearms.” Additionally, those signs have specific requirements for posting and one sign on one door is not compliant. Any first year law student could argue this one.

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