Liberty vs. Michael Bloomberg


nevermindLiberty: “…a condition in which an individual has the right to act according to his or her own will,” or “freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.

NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg: “We live in a world where we have to have a balance. We can’t just say everybody can go everyplace and do anything they want.

From the New York Times:

A network of private and public surveillance cameras, license plate readers and weapons sensors already established in Lower Manhattan as an electronic bulwark against terrorist attacks will soon expand to a large patch of Midtown Manhattan, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly said Sunday as they announced the allocation of $24 million in Homeland Security grants toward the effort.

…Like the system downtown, the expanded surveillance network would feed streams of data for analysis to a coordination center… Behind the mayor, a 40-foot video wall displayed maps, incoming data from a police precinct and more than a dozen video streams, many of them showing tourists taking photographs on a sunny day.

23 Responses to Liberty vs. Michael Bloomberg

  1. metelhed says:

    You know the saying that popped up a few years ago about if we restrict too many liberties, the terrorists win? I think we’re past the point of going too far and are busily cruising along to a style of government that would make the Founding Fathers cry. And the beat goes on…

  2. jgunn says:

    Bloomberg, Ben Franklin smites thee from his grave (probably rolling over right now):

    “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

  3. Ernest Hater says:

    The terrorists have already won. They have us in two un-winnable wars, the government is monitoring, locking up and denying travel to the citizens of this country, our economy is in the toilet. I can go on, but it is just too depressing.

  4. Welcome to “1984,” lower and mid-town Manhattan. I went there two months after 9-11 to see the damage. I haven’t been back since and this doesn’t give me any incentive, that’s for sure.

    New York City is following London’s model of spying on it’s citizens and tourists. It’s done very little for London. From what I’ve read, it’s been little more than a huge waste of money in London, as most crimes still go unsolved.

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23412867-tens-of-thousands-of-cctv-cameras-yet-80-of-crime-unsolved.do

  5. Camera Hater says:

    Have to agree with you, EH. The reaction of the Western governments, in terms of security crack downs, cameras, roll back of civil liberties has played 100% into the terrorists hands. Sensible precautions are justified but this goes way beyond sensible. Desperately sad to see this happening in the Land of the Free.

  6. Bill W. says:

    Since this post has nothing to do with photo enforcement… This just proves what a bunch of tin foil hat wearers you all are…

    • kandaris says:

      heh, now THATS funny…

    • Bryan R says:

      Actually, the philosophies and the basis for them go hand in hand… Fearmongering, the promise of more security from those fears, etc.

      If you can’t see the relationship, maybe you should take an honest, objective step back and question the core of your understanding about this cause to ban photo enforcement.

      Seriously… This clearly shows how limited of a view and scope you view these cameras. Do people like you STILL just think that we’re just a bunch of speed racers?

    • Steve says:

      your post just proves our educational system needs work

  7. Dr Jett says:

    DT,
    Publish the article that I sent you on Saturday 10/10 about Costa Mesa, Ca and their illegal camera activity and that will make Bill W. happy because it is about Photo Enforcement gone wrong. I think this article belongs on Freedoms Phoenix site.

  8. This has everything to do with “photo enforcement.” The city of New York is planning to use cameras in place in police officers. Just because it has nothing to do with speed or red light running – which we have said all along is not what the cameras are about – doesn’t mean it’s not relevant to this website.

    It’s too easy to get bogged down in the debate over speeding or red light running.

    COPS NOT CAMERAS.

    • kandaris says:

      I knew some of you would set the record straight. Still I had to wonder if Bill’s comment was satire or for realz.

    • Dr Jett says:

      I stand corrected because I didn’t pick up on motor vehicles being involved, but I see your point about surveillance of the citizens. You are right, it is the same whether you are on foot or in your vehicle. Next the Terminator will show up and hunt down all of the citizens that balk at giving up their freedom.

  9. RPr says:

    Chillicothe needs a new city council

    With a fresh, new city council, maybe ideas like this can become a reality. This is a time for change so in the future we can hire police officers (create jobs) instead of Redflex.

    http://www.chillicothegazette.com/article/20091015/OPINION03/910150314/Chillicothe-needs-a-new-city-council

  10. Bryan R says:

    “We can’t just say everybody can go everyplace and do anything they want.”
    *****************
    Don’t all oppressive governments start out with this kind of fearmongering?

  11. Stacey says:

    I was over at the this thread discussing how AZ Republic promotes Redflex and they inactivated my account:

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/10/17/20091017rally-ON.html

    • Dr Jett says:

      Stacey,
      I didn’t bother to renew my subscription when the Republic told me they couldn’t print my dissenting letter to the editor because I was explaining how to beat photo radar and they didn’t want to participate in anything illegal. I found out about camerafraud and discovered that I wasn’t the only one who disagreed with the Republic stance and that photo radar is FRAUD. Oh, excuse me when the government is involved it for safety and I feel so much safer now – NOT. Surely we can trust the lames in government that ran our country into the ground, can’t we?

    • who says:

      I guess the readers voted!

  12. Stacey says:

    Yes, Who, and will the readers vote here?

  13. This NY Times article makes my blood boil! I want to repost it on NYC CameraFRAUD since it is relevant. I am not voting for Bill Thompson for Mayor but instead the Libertarian candidate, Joseph Dobrian, excellent video otherwise.

  14. Minnie says:

    Great info , thanks a lot.

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