Louisiana City Votes ATMs Out

runalong86% of Sulphur, Louisiana voters delivered a resounding death knell this weekend by voting out automated ticketing machines (ATMs), otherwise known as photo radar or photo enforcement, TheNewspaper.com is reporting:

In a special election yesterday, a Southern Louisiana city of 22,000 overwhelmingly rejected photo enforcement. Asked, “Shall Ordinance No. 873, M-C Series adopting automated speed enforcement for the City of Sulphur, Louisiana, be repealed?” eighty-six percent of voters said “Yes.” After results are certified on April 13, the Australian speed camera vendor Redflex Traffic Systems will be sent packing…

…voters in Cincinnati, Ohio rejected red light cameras last November. Seventy-six percent of Steubenville, Ohio residents rejected photo radar in 2006. In less recent votes, speed cameras lost by a two-to-one margin in Peoria, Arizona and Batavia, Illinois. Anchorage, Alaska also rejected a photo radar program in 1997.

The next referendum on automated ticketing is set for Chillicothe, Ohio where enthusiastic residents succeeded in gathering more than double the amount of signatures required to qualify for the ballot.


32 Responses to Louisiana City Votes ATMs Out

  1. RPr says:


    photo radar has never survived a vote.

  2. Paul says:

    As an Australian who has seen first hand how intoxicated Governments get with the money that flows through these things, I can assure you that they have nothing to do with road safety. Once they are introduced newer measures follow that are increasingly stealthy, unfair, and effective for robbing people. Try point to point average speed cameras for example. They do that here now. Too bad if you had to overtake or speed up to get out of trouble while in a monitored stretch. We got no referenda. They were introduced by a bankrupt, incompetent State Government after waiting for a wet weekend, and pretending they were doing it reluctantly, then they were rolled out nationally before anyone even had the chance to organize. Stop them any way you can.

  3. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    unfair? UNFAIR? 2 signs that warn a camera is ahead and you dont get snapped unless you are going 11 mph or faster…. add to that the fine is less than if pulled over by a human and the ticket is not reported to your insurance company… compared to other camera crimes this seems more than fair… if you are a bank teller and you get caught stealing from the bank you dont get to steal $10 for free before they do anything…. and at the grocery store you dont get to steal the first 10 packs of cigs free just as long as you dont go for that 11th one!!!

    why are you here doug? and when does your work visa expire? feel free to return to your island anytime… we have enough domestic whinners here.. we dont need foreign ones also!!!

    and based off of the fact that camerfraud has 1500 members listed but only 20 or so participate AND the FACT that you guys can not get members with enough passion to support your sign danglings…. i would say just based on that…. there are not a lot of people who care about the cameras… it is called apathy and it will kill your efforts to remove the cams,,,,

    one additional note
    photoradarscam.com can not even get anyone to visit their site!!! thats why he spends all his time here!!!

    cameras are not coming down in 2010 in fact they never are coming down!!

  4. My favorite line: “In a March 17 press release, for example, ATS insisted that camera opponents were the minority.”

    Sound familiar?

  5. Malfeasant says:

    Law, actually the automated tickets generally cost more than an officer’s ticket, photo tickets i believe are over $200 regardless of the speed- last time i got pulled over, the ticket was $130 and 2 points, or traffic school for $160 and no points, so i opted for traffic school. And that was a real cop, who looked at what I did and the situation, and decided I deserved the ticket, while the camera at that intersection sat idle. Can’t say I’m happy about it, but at least it was somewhat fair. And that is the issue- if all I cared about was getting away with speeding, I would be as in love with the cameras as you appear to be, because they’re so easy to fool. Maybe that’s your real reason?

  6. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    i could be wrong though i hardly ever am… and since it has been…… a long long long time ago that i received a ticket…. i can not say for sure… but i think i recall the whinners at this site trying to make a case that one of the 10,000 reasons that they object to the cams is because there are 2 different fine systems… one for cams and one for getting stopped by a human.. in fact they claimed that to get this done without too much protest from the public, janet purposely made the fines less along with the other incentives… no point and no report to the insurance companies!!! i am for the fines being the same, points added and reports to the insurance companies… dont hurt your hand patting yourself on the back… it doesnt appear too difficult to fool the cams…. hell they give you ample warning that they are ahead!!
    as for your last comment…. not sure what you mean… do i dodge the cams? no … i stay steady no matter the speed… if its 65 thats what i do!!! if 55 then so be it… there is no place that i have to be in such a rush!!!

  7. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    i am confused… somewhat fair… you admit to the infraction but are you saying that if the cam issued the ticket it would not be fair but it was fair cause a cop pulled you over? or the other way around… i mean you are either guilty or not guilty!! deep down only you know for sure!!

  8. Doc says:

    Admin-Please mark down the fact that the ace #1 troll admits to getting a ticket. Th’ “law a bidingcitizen” moniker is blown outta’ th’ H2O! New moniker-:”law breaking hypocrite!” it’s family must be so proud!

    By th’ way-I’ll be @ th’ Yavapai County Courthouse, between 6:p.m. & 8:p.m., Wednesday, April 15th, wearing a white t-shirt that says,”government is not th’ solution…” on th’ front, & “Government IS th’ problem!” on th’ back. I’ll have a pixel print, issued Army floppy head cover on. I’m 5’8″, 200#. If any trolls wanna’ cruise on up, please feel free! I would like to introduce any volunteers from th’ troll side of th’ fence to FREEDOM & LIBERTY, 1st hand!

    Remember…F R E E D O M ! ! !-Doc from Prescott

  9. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    and doc..just what is the purpose for hanging out at the courthouse…AFTER HOURS!!!! if you had any guts in that 5’8″ 200 pounds..you would show up there about 9am and stay until lunch !!

    showing up at the couthouse after hours…what a clown!!!

    yea it was for speeding…. not for my convictions of meth use!!! what happended to not feeding the trolls? you are a mental midget of the highest order!!!

  10. Dr Jett says:

    Law A. Bidingcitizen sent you this message from CameraFraud.com on Meetup: —————————————————————- nothing would please me more than to see your skin scattered along the highway like raw flesh and meat after striking a deer at high speeds…. you that ride the cycles create everything bad that happens to you by driving like assholes!!! This is LAB’s idea of obeying the law.
    His mothers pimp said that he is pissed off at LAB because his ass is raw from getting fucked by the government so much that all he can do now are BJ’s and that cuts his pimp (ATS’s) revenue in half. LAB is too much of a PUNK to ride a motorcycle. It takes more skill than he could ever master.

  11. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    jett…your comprehension skills are a little weak..let me help you…. if you notice what i wrote it does not describe anything about obeying the laws… what i wrote is what i would enjoy witnessing happen to you!!! read it again and you will see you are WRONG in your interpretation of what i wrote… as for the other childishness you wrote!!! most is alot like the other doc’s posts which are so jumbled they are hard to understand..your hands tend to get ahead of your brains!! that is a sign of a small brain!! no i have never ridden a motorcycle… never had a desire to get out of a cage of steel and expose myself .. and i am sure there is some skill to riding one… and much more skill to ride one like an asshole!!! ala..dr.jett!!

    also never had any desire to jump out of planes… or jump off bridges with a parachute… and along those lines ..never wanted to bungy jump… or walk a tight rope accross two sky scrappers… never wanted to scale a rock face!!! and i am not much into roller coasters!!!

  12. I'm Back says:

    The horror! Nice mental imagery. Happy motoring Dr. Jett. Watch out for all those self appointed “pace cars” out there.

  13. Shane says:

    Doc will probably be there in the evening because he has a job that would not allow him to leave during normal business hours.

  14. Walter says:

    Dr Jett.

    What does it take to get an order of protection from the courts? This seems to be a message of a threatening nature. Cyberstalking and harassment is a crime. I would look into pursuing legal action against LAB.

  15. Doc says:

    law breaking hypocrite- Stupid D!CKHEAD troll! Th’ Prescott “T axed E nough A lready” (TEA Party) is from 6:p.m. to 8:p.m. on Wednesday, April 15th, 2009, @ th’ courthouse in Prescott. Oh! Wait. I digress…trolls are FOR more & higher taxes! That’s all socialists/totaliarianists understand. So trolls have no comprehension of a tax protest. They have no comprehension of anything that doesn’t involve government control in everybody’s life. LBH also types, “…not for my convictions of meth use!!!” So law breakin’ hypocrite ADMITS not only to meth use, but for being arrested & convicted of meth use, a Class 4 Felony in th’ state of Arizona! Tell us all, does confession cleanse th’ soul? I know I feel better! Stupid A$$ troll!

    I have NO meth use/sales arrests or convictions…ever. I’ve been MAN enuff to admit a large mistake in my past, & MAN enuff to have handled it on my own, & SMART enuff not to have gotten busted for it! Unlike our infamous troll here, law breakin’ hypocrite. & law breaking hypocrite STILL is guilty of breaking th’ law AND being a hypocrite. law breaking hypocrite…LBH…troll…whatever…

    I’LL BE ON my scoot. IF troll thinks he can take me out on my bike…he’ll need understand that he is proliferating his hypocracy. And he’ll also need to understand that several people have tried to take me out…no winners yet. 30 YEARS on 2 wheels-bitch!Bein’ from Killadelphia, pissin’ trolls off’s in my contract!

    As to Dr Jett’s find from ?lab?/lbh-1st-GREAT report! 2nd-Walter’s correct. I’m pretty sure threats of that nature over th’ web are a FELONY! But that should be of no suprise to any of us coming from law breakin’ hypocrite. Typin’s cheap bitch! Bring yer bad self on up to Prescott…04/15-6:p.m. to 8:p.m.-I’ll show you troll why I’m an Honorably Discharged Veteran hangin’ around th’ courthouse after hours.

    Shane-Thanks for th’ Back-up! But th’ sched. hours for th’ “TEA” Party are from 6 to 8. I believe there’s gonna’ be a signature booth for cameraFRAUD.com there as well!

    So, I remain faithfully yours, Remember…

    F R E E D O M ! ! !-Doc from Prescott

  16. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    what a surprise… you found a fellow gang of outcasts to protest taxes also!!! whats it like to walk around and hate everything doc?

    you are stretching on the meth thing.. i was referring to you and your habit!!!

    and yes… go ahead … take it to a judge and watch your happy ass …all of you… get laughed out of court… jesus christ… none of you can read!!! i clearly states it is what i want to see happen… never said i was going to do it… but hey…thats what this site is all about… streeeeetttttcchhiing the truth!!! go ahead walter look into it!! your doing the talking!!! take what i wrote and check into it….
    your name will be on my dance card soon enough!!! good things come to those who wait!!!

    ok now i will wait for more gibberish from thing 1. and thing 2…. that would be doc and doc!!!

  17. Dan G. says:

    LAB seems to be a lot out of touch. Let me clear this up for you lab: address the topic of the article – in this case the overwhelming majority of voters voting AGAINST photo radar. That’s it! Your repeated lashing out at others, while supporting a dying scamera operation is quite humorous. It no longer matters what you say since you NEVER address issues and regardless of what you say, THE CAMERAS ARE COMING DOWN!!!

  18. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    i address them all the time… and i get stoned as much as i throw stones….

    and since we have not had a vote here.. please dont tell me you have the pulse of the state… you do not!!! and neither do i…. but i look around.. and your cause just aint happening!! you have a few blow hards, and you have a handfull of people who care!! and that IT IS!!!

  19. Dr Jett says:

    I stand corrected on my initial interpretation, and I don’t consider your statement a threat, but why is it childish to picture seeing you with a big dick up your ass when that is your preferred stance with regards to believing and following any laws that are passed even if they are just a scam or harm the citizens of our country.
    I have ridden for over 40 yrs and survived the car drivers like you that have limited skills. That is why you feel safe driving the speed limit. You did state that you aren’t an adrenaline junkie, but you think I ride like an asshole because you don’t have the guts or skill to ride at my level. Thats OK because riding in traffic with drivers like you surrounding us is not for the weak kneed or faint of heart. You would never survive like Doc and I have for decades sharing the road with lames like you.

  20. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    oh dr. jett-lag!!! yes the proverbial “chest pounding ” on an internet site!!! i guess i am speechless… you are much more the man than i…. you can ride a motorcycle… that in and of itself propels you to heights i could most certainly never attain!!! being able to ride a bike through traffic… then you are the man as you say!!!

    and speaking of dicks and assholes.. i am not surprised that you mention doc… when you write about such things!!! i am assuming it brings back fond memories of a bike trip through the mountains north of prescott… where you and doc stripped off those leather chaps! and scripted your only little brokeback mountain!!! motorcycle style!!!!!! and when you reached full throttle..did you both scream
    F R E E D O M together?

    admin… please note that dr.jett started the subject of dicks and such…

  21. Doc says:

    Dr Jett-law breaking hypocrite is fantasizing about some leather B-N-D thing…but again doesn’t stay on point. I really don’t wanna’ read about his sick, perverted desires. & his weak attempt to cover his admission of guilt on his law breakin’ ways is absolutely lame…& his worthless a$$ KNOWS IT!

    Th’ boy ain’t got th’ stomach to ride 2 wheels. & I’m Glad! It’s guys like himthat make guys like me have to change my riding habits. Just like he doesn’t have th’ stomach for standin’ up & takin’ a little responsibility for his sorry, worthless self. He types a big talk…but can he walk th’ BIG WALK?

    Even th’ A2Z mob knows their time is short on these scameras! Last night, KPHO reported dps has halted installing the other 50+ stationary scameras left on th’ contract, ‘cuz they can’t figure out where to put ’em! I’ve got a suggestion…How about in law breaking hypocrite’s car, house, garage, bedroom, bathroom, & RECTUM! He sure knows a lot about that brokeback thing…I never saw it myself!

    Remember…F R E E D O M ! ! !-Doc from Prescott

  22. geez says:

    If it was only ‘all about the money’ you would think they would be in a hurry to put up the camera’s

  23. Walter says:

    You keep saying that it’s not about the money. Then please explain why it was passed in a budget package. Why wasn’t it enacted in a bill all by it’s self?

    It sure seems to me that something passed in a budget package would be about money. After all money is what a budget is about. right?

    You guys keep arguing a point that you lost from the very start. Just in the way it was passed proves it was about the money.

    The reason they don’t put up the rest of the cameras is because they haven’t made any actual profit from the cameras they have up now. They know the cameras are coming down next year. Between the legislature ending the contract, and the peoples vote in November. The cameras don’t have a chance. They will not break even on the cameras they have up now. Even after the contract runs full length. So why put up more cameras that will have a year less time to make money. They will just be that much farther behind when the cameras come down.

  24. j says:

    nobody pays the tickets that makes the cameras worthless

  25. Walter, the silence says it all.

  26. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    scam – you are such a clown!! silence… oh becasue you say its all about the money and we claim it isnt? how long do you think we can keep that argument going? its pointless….you have your opinion and we have ours!!! were you in the room when janet said ” alright we are going to install cameras so we can shore up the budget shortfall” if you were not in that room then you can not say with certainty that it is all about the money…. and you refuse to believe the dps when they say it… so again what is the point of arguing with you..go back to your little linely website and play with it!!! write some post back and forth to yourself

  27. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    when dps says it is about safety that is!!

  28. Walter says:


    What’s that??? I can’t hear you over the chirp of the crickets.

  29. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    thats the best you got walter?

  30. Dr Jett says:

    You have some humorous retorts, but do you really believe the Highway Robbers (DPS) will ever admit that their scam is to guarantee that they get their paychecks by robbing the rest of us?
    That is like believing that Janet who is a butt buddy with Sheriff Joe has any interest other than her pork barrel projects. Notice how she used her political agendas for her own interests to get into higher political office just like nickel bag Joe spends all of his time grandstanding for the press. Read up about Janets past history as a politician and you can then understand why she would slip the Photo Radar Cameras into a bill instead giving the citizens a choice to vote on it. That is only done that way because she knew that the citizens would never vote for an additional way of being harrassed by the Gestopo DPS.
    Have you seen any discussion about teaching accident avoidance and improving the driving skills of the average lack luster drivers who can flip cars over while driving on a straight stretch of highway? NO!!!
    You may fall for BS from DPS, but it is obvious that the majority of the citizens recognize a scam when they see one that is this blatant.

  31. Dawn says:

    I like how my comment yesterday was not posted…you people do not post people true comments only the ones that side with your views. you people are full of it!!!!

    [ADMIN Response: All comments are being held for moderation. If you spend more than a day here, you would know full and well we allow an excess of opposing viewpoints.]

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