Photo Radar Protests Spread Nationwide


kcmoMembers of the “Liberty Restoration Project” recently held a demonstration opposed to the use of automated ticketing machines in Kansas City, MO. They are supporting state Senate Bill 211 which would ban the practice outright.

nbcdcIn Maryland, members of CameraFRAUD DC held a small rally which drew the attention of NBC Washington. “Do you really think that these people came out today because they want to be able to drive too fast?” said one forum participant on the NBC Washington website.

“They came out because they did a little investigating and found out what a racket this is...”

In Arizona, CameraFRAUD plans to hold a rally on Friday afternoon in the Phoenix-suburb of Chandler. Past demonstrations in Arizona have drawn hundreds of participants and captured the attention of local media.

49 Responses to Photo Radar Protests Spread Nationwide

  1. Doc says:

    Americans who love F R E E D O M don’t want scameras!
    -Dear Redflex totalitarianists; While we recognize that you’ve expended a large amount of money & effort to spread your invaision of privacy here in the United States of America, we no longer require your kind here. Now, we KNOW this crap went over like crean cheeze in great Britan, we Americans kicked their a$$e$ well over 200 YEARS ago, & saved their a$$e$ 2 or 3 times since! So follow their lead…You’re 86’d! GET TH’ F*#K OUT NOW! Thank You.
    Sincerely, The Citizens of the United States of America!

  2. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    doc.. you have a phone? why dont you call them…. i think they have made it easy for you and listed the numbers to the right of this column…

    come doc… nobody here from redflex … your rant is falling on deaf hears…. call em….

    F R E E D O M from the L I E S!!!

  3. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    NOW THERE IS A LIE RIGHT THERE… YOU HAD ONE GATHERING THAT MAY HAVE DRAWN OVER 100 … BUT ABOVE YOU FLAT OUT LIE SAYING “DEMONSTRATIONS”… I DONT THINK YOU HAVE EVEN HAD 100 YET AT ANY GATHERING…

    by the way .. how is the signature campaign going? you at 1000 yet?

  4. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    doc.. how many times you been sued for mal practice?

    cause if you practice medicine like you try to convey your messages…. you must have a lot of dead bodies hanging around after you leave a room!!!

  5. PhotoRadarScam says:

    DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

  6. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    great.. stacey is posting her fantasies under my user name!!!

    is there anyone that can fix this..someone using anothers name and write anything they want? come on what kind of 2nd rate place is this?

  7. Rudolph says:

    Doc- I don’t know what you said to get him going like this, but I don’t think he is kidding!

  8. Rudolph says:

    LA- Are you saying you did not write the pantyhose remark? If so, then I agree- using someone elses name to post is wrong.

    But if it is a muliple personality thing…too strange for me.

  9. camerafraud says:

    Spoofed posts removed. Don’t do that.

  10. guttersn1pe says:

    Dude – go to the meet up page. There have been several demonstrations – as the article indicates. Not a lie. Do some research.

  11. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    thank you….

    gutter- an article tells me nothing but that it was a great success!!! 6 people… great success? it says the demostrations have drawn hundreds… well maybe if you count by 5’s!!!! if these are the mistruths they tell now.. whats it going to be like while campaigning for the voters!!! the pro camera group will have to employ a special group just to exploit the lies!!! thats cool though.. we will have lots of money!!!

  12. Joe says:

    Careful people. The closer Redflex gets to shuttering its American HQ, the crazier LAB will get in his rants. The job he so cherishes is soon to be gone.

    Think Redflex will keep an HQ in a state where the practice has been outlawed? Think again!

  13. You know LAB, IIRC the time you saw “6” was like 30 minutes before the event was even scheduled to start. That’s like taking attendance at a hockey game 30min before puck drop, or 30 min before 1st pitch at a bb game. Pretty sure they don’t take the count that early..

  14. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    i am sure that if pictures were taken that showed more than 6 they would have been posted…. !!!!
    and the thing is .. i have not heard anybody really argue yet that there were much more than 6…. in fact one of you smart guys made a claim that success is not graded by the count… which in translation means… the turnout sucked but we have to save face!!!

  15. Ok, however, apparently YOU weren’t there during the “actual” event so you have just as much credibility.

  16. camerafraud says:

    “West Side Demonstration & Petition Signature Collecting
    37 attended”

    CameraFRAUD.com

    Phoenix, AZ
    1,121 Volunteers

    Welcome to CameraFRAUD. We are united in our effort to get rid of every speed camera, red light camera, and photo radar van here in Arizona and across the country. We were suc…

    Check out this Meetup Group →

  17. Glyph says:

    i am sure that if pictures were taken that showed more than 6 they would have been posted…. !!!!

    LAW, how can you be sure? If I were to make a similar comment, you’d be typing ‘freedom from the lies’ again, claiming some kind of victory.

    Just to set the record straight, I posted no less than 14 pics from the West Valley Signwave on the Flickr page. Go through them and you’ll be able to count more than 6 people. Now if you come back and say that you meant there weren’t more than 6 people in one photo, I’ll just post one that does.

    Y’know… in case you’re not sure.

  18. PhotoRadarScam says:

    How many times do I have to say, “Don’t feed the troll?” He talks about events he didn’t attend (while they were ocurring), things he doesn’t know about, and things he refuses to research, and makes points that he can’t back up with any citations. Conversing with the troll is futile.

  19. Doc says:

    Well said. Please, for th’ love of GOD, and all that is Holy, just ignore th’ troll;

    Don’t feed th’ troll!

    etc. thank you.

  20. Uncle Slam says:

    I passed a scam van on Broadway tonight, just east of Dorsey in Tempe. Gave him the high beams and a long, loud taste of the horn. The middle digit salute while I was at it, too. Give ’em a taste of the same shock tactics they continue to use to disrupt safe traffic flow. I encourage you all to do the same.

    Will you let them put up their silver sunshades and take a nap while they steal from our pockets with their misused technology? Nah. Wake ’em up. Retake your rights.

    And “lawabidingcitizen”… you’re still an ass.

    Uncle Slam

  21. I'm Back says:

    Annnnnd here is a Florida Public Health Review that gives several instances of increased accidents and injuries in intersections after red light cameras are added:

    http://tinyurl.com/cjb38n

    Oh and Montana could be the next to kick Redflex out:

    http://tinyurl.com/dxk98q

  22. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    slam- i dont know whether to slam you or feel sorry for you….. but it appears that you felt much better about yourself after you did this…. i kind of look at it like this….

    nobody cares and certainly not the person in the van!!!!

  23. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    i count 14 different people.. and i was generous and counted the lady at the petition table…. and no there is not one picture that has anymore than 4 people that can be seen… but that is beside the point… 14 people? WOW… i am so blown away i will say it backwards WOW!!!!

  24. Mom says:

    You know I really don’t have a smart ass remark to leave for the camera fraud gang. All I can say is that I like the cameras and it has created many jobs, you know what I do have a smart ass comment. The same people that complain about the cameras are probably the same people that got into the 5 year arm mortgage bull shit and are now complaining that they are unable to pay the bills. Instead of complaining wake up and use your head go the speed limit hell go 9 MPH over the speed limit and guess what, YOU WILL NOT GET A TICKET, but I guess that is to hard for them to understand. And some of what you do say is right America dose need to wake up but not in the way you think, we need to start taking responsibility for our actions, if we brake the law there has to be consequences, if we do not pay our bills there will be consequences, when did we start to become a nation that believes when we fuck up all we have to do is cry and someone will take our hand and give us a hand out. This comment will most likely get deleted because they do that to most of mine but I hope that it doesn’t.

  25. Dan G says:

    Do not feed the troll.

    Friday? Count me in!!

  26. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    just waiting for that post glyph

  27. jonafino says:

    Law will be greatly surprised when the 150,000 signatures are collected in an amazingly short period of time. Let’s see if he sticks to his story of just 14 people.

  28. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    jonafino…. first of all the goal is 153,000 plus i believe… anything less and it will not get on the ballot… also… that is valid signatures.. meaning registered voters.. to be safe i would imagine that you will need to come in at 225,000 .. now as you were saying? there was no story… i thought it was 6 .. glyph challenged me to look at the pics and count again…. i came up with 14…. cause thats all that was out there… please dont brag about 14….

  29. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    i guess indiana is concerned with safety also!!!

    guess you wont be claiming that one as a win!!!!!

  30. Stacey says:

    The rejection of photo radar by voters in Peoria was soon followed by votes to remove cameras in Batavia, Illinois and Anchorage, Alaska. Last year, Cincinnati, Ohio voted to reject red light cameras and in a 2006 referendum on speed cameras, Steubenville, Ohio voted three-to-one against. If photo radar has never won in a public referendum, one might ask why the ATS polling data suggest public support for the program.

    “We do more than simply monitor public opinion,” the Public Opinion Strategies website explains. “We develop messages that defend our client’s interests while impacting complex public policy issues.”

    http://www.speedtraphunter.net/economics-politics/1119-arizona-history-underscores-unpopularity-photo-radar.html

  31. If scameras were voted out in peoria, how come I still see them there?

  32. geez says:

    sog,
    The problem is you took something written by a CF member as fact…

  33. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    i think i am in love with james toton, pres of ats… he said it like it is back then and i doubt he has changed!!!! “why give peoplea warning of cameras, is this law enforcement or what” …. he is my idol!!!!

    i think the photo radar is lke walmart… people either love it or hate it… some communities on the brink of a walmart coming to town rise up and fight it… others welcome a walmart and others dont care one way or the other..

    i have to wonder about the residents of peoria back in 1991.. the cameras were used on streets in neighborhoods and around school zones….and they voted them out.. i guess they were not really concerned about the safety of their children back then!!! i would ask glyph and doc what it is like to see a kid come to the er after being hit by a vehicle at 35 mph!!??? my guess is its not a pretty sight!!

  34. kandaris says:

    Uhm, better get it right before you write things like that dewd.

    http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/26/2669.asp

    Excerpt:
    —————————————————————————————————
    On March 19, 1991, the claims of Peoria officials that the program was popular turned out to be unfounded — photo ticketing lost in the referendum by a two-to-one margin.

    “It was the worst boondoggle the city ever went into,” Peoria Police Lieutenant Jim Flonacher told the Anchorage Daily News in 1996. “Our citizens were literally up in arms. We were expecting Bastille Day at any moment.”
    ————————————————————————————————–
    The problem was they didn’t do it right. They didn’t get rid of them perminently and so they came back. This time that mistake will not be repeated.

  35. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    you talking to me kandaris?

  36. DAVE SUNKLE says:

    YES,I RECEIVED A PHOTO TICKET ON 60 E/B NEAR WHITMAN. I HAD JUST WENT THROUGH THE LIGHT ABOUT A HALF MILE. THERE WAS NO SPEED SIGN AS I LEFT WHITMAN. THEY WERE SET UP JUST BEFORE THE 65 MPH SIGN. THIS TOO ME IS A QUESTIONABLE CITATION. THES IS A GREY AREA TO ME.

  37. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    just as you learned from your drivers test.. if you see no sign then you stay with the last one you saw!!
    you left out just how fast you were traveling!!! again another person that refuses to take responsibility!!! fear not dave.. you are in a crowd with lots of them here!! and dont listen to them… earlier i posted a link to the pres of ats civil record… he got a ticket and ignored it… but the courts didnt ignore it!!!! role the dice though!!

  38. I would love to see the original Peoria ballot measure text… And details on how they came back.

  39. kandaris says:

    SOG,

    Yah, I would like to see it too. You might be able to get it if you submit a FOIA request to Peoria.😉

  40. I was thinking about it. I searched & searched their website to no avail. The only references I could find anywhere just said they had a vote and they were banned but that was it..😦

  41. TheCamerasAreGood says:

    Why do you think traffic cameras on roads are an invasion of privacy? Perhaps all the cameras that monitor traffic for traffic reporting should be removed as well. If you are driving on a public road, you have no entitlement to the right of privacy. You are in a public area. Did you ask your bank to remove their cameras for your privacy?

  42. RPr says:

    http://www.azfamily.com/video/localnews-index.html?nvid=345701

    The cameras record 24 hours a day.

    Redflex lied to the state legislature.

  43. Walter says:

    Walking down the street in the open, Entering a bank or Grocery store. I would not expect to have 100% privacy. Sitting in my personal car. I would expect at least some privacy. Maybe not 100% but at least some. Having Big Brother video me in my truck, and saving it for who knows how long, In my opinion is crossing the line.

    Also a bank or a grocery store has the right to protect it’s self from a very specific crime. Usually theft. There is no specific crime that the state is looking for when it keeps the video for whatever period of time they keep it for. They are running surveillance for the sake of running surveillance. Just in case they find some reason to use it. The government has no business doing that. If you want your government to watch over your every move. and fine you every time you break the most insignificant of rules. Then go to Russia or China or some other communist totalitarian country. This country was founded on freedom from government control. That is the reason the pilgrims came here from England in the first place. Government surveillance is a big step towards government control.

  44. Zebra says:

    And the last time I looked, the bank didn’t get to “fine” you for infractions of rules they are arbitrarily changing around. “Hey! You are standing in the wrong line. I know this looks like the line, and is the line in 90% of the banks, but we moved ours over 30 feet. That will be $280!” and “If you don’t like it, you can go argue your case in front of the wife of the bank president!”

  45. It is the combintation of a surveillence with an automated identification and tracking system that is the invasion of privacy. The ADOT cams do not and cannot track who drives by. Same with the bank cameras cannot automatically and systematically track who walks through the doors. http://PhotoRadarScam.com/privacy.php

  46. Doc says:

    Well said, PhotoRadarScam-Also, A modicum of privacy IS expected in YOUR VEHICLE, as it IS LEGAL to DENY an officer on the side of the road access to the interior or trunk of your vehicle WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT! Now they can get a K-9 unit out to your location & “sniff out” a little “probable cause”…but THAT, dear readers, is another topic, entirely.

    Also, the case could be made that since a person is INSIDE their vehicle, right to privacy is violated by a roadside camera, AND “facial recognition/ANLP technology” only add to that violation. Far fetched? Remember, we’re typin’ about RIGHTS here. Some woman sued Mikkydeez for GOD ONLY KNOWS how much $$$$ over spilled coffee. 80 appeals later, she still got a pile of ca$h! A good barrister could most definately pull a suit of this nature off. I’m suprised some haven’t tried already. The publicity of a case like this being successfully argued would be HUGE! Again, Zebra-I really believe a call to the U.S. Justice Dept. is in order for that S#!T you’re dealin’ with down in your neck-o-th’ desert. Of course, with that dept. of th’ federal gubment bein’ run by j-no…maybe not.

    Remember…F R E E D O M ! ! !-Doc from Prescott

  47. Law A. Bidingcitizen says:

    walt- what about a parking garage? and the parking lot at the grocery store? the court house ( seems a few camerfraud memebers have had their mugs taped recently) they are all over yet.. you focus in on the ones that try and uphold the law by snapping pics and keeping a 24/7 vidoe that is seen by pretty much nobody!!

    doc- where is that buckaroo attorney that is going to say yaaahooo and take on the system? its been how long since they went state wide!!! where are they? i think it is obvious…. they know its a losing battle… camerfrauds own glorified attorney… whats her name… yea all she is doing is making money on the book she wrote … but she is not taking the case on for “the cause” no she is just pofiting!!!

    cameras are good!! fyi there is no arguing with this crowd and the more you visit the more you will be sickened by the lies and hypocrisy!!! remember you are wrong!!!

    THE CAMERAS ARE NOT LEAVING ..NOT NOW AND NOT IN 2010!! OR 2011 OR 12-13-14-15

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