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20 Responses to Smile: You’re on CameraFRAUD.com!

  1. Tom Perkins says:

    What a load of bull! I read the line about “comfort of driving” being compromised because of fear of getting a ticket. Oh, please. I have had my share of tickets. Hated every one of them. Deserved every one of them. So I am to take umbrage that I’m going to get a ticket for breaking the law? I have had more than my share of close calls with the “freedom riders” who race through the lanes with no warning and ride my butt no matter what lane I’m in. No, I’m not some old fart camped out in the left lane with my right turn signal on permanently. Lord, people, life is too short and the stakes are too high to whine about getting caught for speeding. Find another cause.

  2. Jim says:

    Tom, you are full of bull. It has been revealed in studies that its not speed that kills, but the difference in speed. These cameras do just that, create a difference in speed as some drivers hit the brakes to slow down, and some know that they can go 10 mph over and not get ticketed. If you dont like the site, get the hell off. And I am willing to bet that you really are an old fart going slow in the fast lane.

  3. Kelly Digbar says:

    You have the RIGHT to travel in the United States without being scammed or coerced into giving up your money for a NON crime. The CEO’s of these companies and everyone else conspiring in this fraud is going to pay….

    They honestly think you can just walk around with impunity throughout the valley after robbing the people using threats?

  4. catch says:

    Seriously guys you are jerks. Is Tom not entitled to his opinion? You losers seem to have no real job in life, other than to harass people doing their job and call them names. Tom is right, find another cause. Speed kills. Its simple, don’t speed, don’t get a ticket. Its not complicated.

  5. Ross says:

    I have a job and work 45 hours a week. Salary and bonus from a major national brokerage. Oh, and I have a degree from ASU too. Call me a loser, but I am just so sick of living in this “Nanny State” that Arizona has become.

    It’s not that Tom isn’t entitled to his opinion, it’s just that we have to be vigilant here, because this Photo Scam has gone too far and frankly it’s scary. If you want to call me a jerk, I’m a jerk. I’m a jerk who’s sick of feeling like he can’t even drive down the road anymore without having several attempts at taking my money for no good reason. The safety issue is a completely false premise.

    Catch, this is not about having a debate, it’s about taking back our freedom before the photos turn in to videos and the tickets start being issued for “distracted driving.” Think about it a little more and you might realize the possibilities. I’ll just go on being a jerk or an “a-hole” who actually has an opinion and isn’t just preaching complicity.

  6. ScameraActivist says:

    Thanks there Ross, well said.

  7. Glyph Hunter says:

    I have a job too.

    You can call me a jerk, but most people call me Nurse. Like most RNs, I work just three days per week, and that leaves me free for other pursuits. In addition to exposing radar camera fraud, I volunteer myself by performing hearing and vision screenings for the children at some of the local faith based pre-schools. I also work with a group that offers humanitarian aid to people who are lost, standed, injured, or near death in the desert along the US/Mexico border. I’ve photographed, free of charge, gala events for local non-profits like the Arizona Center for the Blind and Visually Impaired. Just over a month ago, I helped deliver a baby in a crowded elevator.

    I have a job, I’m not a loser, I love my country, and I cherish the Constitution. That’s why I’m out there on the streets with the patriots of CameraFraud.

  8. RPr says:

    people that deliver babys are the coolest.

  9. Rocky Frisco says:

    There’s no place in law enforcement for private companies. Their motivation is strictly to make money. It’s the same crooked BS as “private prisons.” In Oklahoma, you can’t ticket a vehicle for speed, only a driver, so the “speed cameras” can’t be used to issue a ticket. You should push for this in Arizona. Tickets should only be issued by Law Enforcement Officers in person; that’s the American way.

    By the way, have you considered that a little creativity can foil these things? A small thrown balloon filled with paint can block a camera van window or windshield. A paintball gun can smear a lens. Human piss is a really good rusting agent. There are things that really smell rank, like skunk oil and other agents. Camera vans have tires, windows and windshields, all vulnerable areas. A paintball hit right next to the driver’s side window sends a message: “This could have been a bullet, asshole!” The drivers are subject to fear, just like other people. How about social ostracization? Outing the van drivers to the general public might have an effect.

    Don’t use violence against any person, but do use intimidation and creativity. Make the drivers so afraid of the general public that they start to lose sleep and look over their shoulders all the time. Send good-looking gals to attract these cretins and then reject them when they “find out about their job.” We are smarter and more devious than these creeps; use ridicule against them. They must have a place to park their BigBrotherMobiles; a little graffiti goes a long way if it’s really funny. Everybody understands swastikas and the hammer & sickle.

    Thousands of small hits will eventually break the biggest rock.

  10. catch says:

    Again I come back to my original point, don’t speed, don’t get a ticket, don’t loose money. If people did the right thing, there would be no issues out there on the roads.

    I just don’t see the validity in harassing people the way you are. What was the point and purpose of taking those photos of that person working his job in the van and smearing his images on the internet, without your approval? its just wrong.

    Now you have Mr. Frisco promoting violent acts by throwing paint and shooting paint balls at these people. Way to go.

  11. Ross says:

    Catch,
    You’re still not getting it. Don’t worry, we’ll take care of it. Maybe one day you’ll realize we’re talking about the invasion of privacy and FRAUD, not safety.

    Tickets are issued by these machines whether or not you’re speeding. BELIEVE IT.

  12. RC says:

    Can you please provide an example of when one of the machines gave an invalid ticket? Do all of you think the camera just takes a picture and a ticket is issued on the spot? I’m sure between the company and the Police Department everything is verified before it is issued.

  13. RPr says:

    they are unconstitutional

    a.. Administration of the program violates Fourteenth Amendment Due Process
    rights
    b.. Confrontation rights (6th Amendment right)
    c.. Equal Protection (disparate treatment for public, police, rental,
    corporate, out-of-state vehicles, motorists cited by police
    d.. Fifth Amendment right to remain silent (for statutes requiring affidavit
    as to who was driving)
    e.. Mailing a citation that requires appearance is a seizure subject to the
    Fourth Amendment
    f.. Photographing a motorist is a search subject to the Fourth Amendment
    g.. Pre-charging delay (delay between the violation’s occurrence and receipt
    of notice) – Fourteenth Amendment Due Process
    h.. Presumption that the registered owner is the driver impermissibly shifts
    the burden of proof
    i.. Privacy – violation of State privacy laws
    j.. Revenue generation: selection criteria for photo red light enforcement,
    light phase timing
    k.. Substantive Due Process – Privacy
    The above are all issues that are likely to continue to be the subject of legal
    review and refinement. Monitoring their long-term clarification through legal
    proceedings is to be advised for all jurisdictions adopting red light camera
    enforcement systems. Appendix A reviews current relevant case law examples and
    in doing so illuminates the types of issues that have been raised.

    Photo Red Light Case Law Synopsis
    Dajani v. Governor of Md., No. CCB-00-713, 2001 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 982 (D. Md.
    Jan. 24, 2001)

  14. catch says:

    What am I not getting??? No one seems to get my point I guess, as simple as it sounds. Don’t do something wrong, don’t get your picture taken, don’t pay any fine, no “invasion of privacy”……. I guess its a hard thing to follow for some, not all though.

    Again, what was the point and purpose of taking those photos of that person working his job in the van and smearing his images on the internet, without your approval? Please answer that much.

    “Invasion of Privacy” is such a lame argument really. People are captured on video everywhere; there are cameras all over the place, public and private venues, but that seems to be ok; no body claims invasion there. Only when people get caught doing something wrong do they complain. I suppose its invasion of privacy if a terrorist being caught on camera at an airport is invasion of their privacy also, perhaps I will get a scamera sign next time I fly and protest the fact that I am being video taped everywhere I go. Thats just so wrong right? Darn those cameras.

    Glad your workin hard at your day job also Ross🙂

  15. camerafraud says:

    Catch says: “Don’t do something wrong, don’t get your picture taken, don’t pay any fine, no “invasion of privacy”……”

    Catch then says: “what was the point and purpose of taking those photos of that person working his job in the van and smearing his images on the internet”

    In this case, I agree with you: Don’t do something wrong (operate a scam van), don’t get your picture taken (by CameraFRAUD.com). “It’s so easy!…” but apparently a hard thing to follow for some.

  16. RC says:

    Cause you know the current job market and economy is so stellar that all these van drivers should just quit because a vocal minority thinks there all a scam.

    Even if these aren’t “official” goverment vehicles in your eyes, I’m pretty sure DPS will have something to say once one of you guys break a window, take a leak on, or do anything else to make your point on one of these vans.

  17. anon says:

    “…Cause you know the current job market and economy is so stellar that all these van drivers should just quit because a vocal minority thinks there all a scam…”

    Waahhh waaahhh! The economy is in the pisser, so that excuses theft! Waaah! Wahhhh!

    “…Even if these aren’t “official” goverment vehicles in your eyes,”

    They are in your eyes? I don’t see government plates on em.

    “… I’m pretty sure DPS will have something to say once one of you guys break a window, take a leak on, or do anything else to make your point on one of these vans.”

    Redflex and ATS are the thugs. If anyone does any of those things, it’ll be an industry insider pullin a false flag attack on their own equipment to shore up support or in order to help them lobby for “bubble zones” for photo equipment.

  18. Release says:

    Catch, Tom, and others are right. The morons who maintain this website have no purpose in life than to whine about a ploicy they have no control over and can do nothing about. Several people have suggested obvious ways to deal with photo cameras but they would rather waste their time and resources crying amongst themselves…

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