Scottsdale Launches All-out Assault on Freedom of Speech


Scottsdale Police has arrested a reporter who was videographing anti-camera activists. Two individuals were exercising their first-amendment rights by waving signs on a sidewalk on Shea Blvd when, incredulously, the Scottsdale Police arrested the person holding the camera. One of the charges was even for a non-existent crime: “disrupting the operation of a photo radar van.”

“A Scottsdale man arrested Wednesday night was accused of disrupting the operation of a photo radar van parked in the 6800 block of East Shea Boulevard, police said.

Shelton, 35, was holding protest signs and blocking the van’s cameras, Officer Dave Pubins said.

Last Friday, a grass-roots group called CameraFraud.com gathered at Scottsdale and Thomas roads to protest the use of photo-enforcement cameras.”

The Scottsdale Police is in such an outright tizzy that they even went as far as to issue a press release in a section of their website normally grazed with information pertaining to death investigations and armed robberies.

The arrested reporter is a contributor to local-news site FreedomsPhoenix.com, as well as his own Youtube channel, “RP4409.” He was released on his own recognizance on 8/28 around 5:30 PM.

Best of luck with your proceedings, Scottsdale. You’ll need it, because by acting illegally under the “color of law,” the TRUE law shines though as clear as day.

UPDATE: A few of our readers pointed out an interesting question: If it’s a crime to wave a sign on a city street near photo radar equipment, why didn’t the Scottsdale Police take enforcement action on Friday, August 22nd during the Thomas Road protest, in which footage from local channel KTVK-TV clearly shows activists who may have purposefully been blocking the equipment?

Is it because they were afraid of possible public backlash and blowback for being heavy-handed? Is it because the Scottsdale Police is afraid of the media? Or, perhaps the City of Scottsdale and the Scottsdale Police are terrified of cameras catching them in the act when they do something wrong?

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30 Responses to Scottsdale Launches All-out Assault on Freedom of Speech

  1. catch says:

    Here you go, a comment:
    A friend of mine who was nearly killed by a person speeding through a redlight told me about this website, so I had to check it out.
    You guys are seriously a bunch of losers; setting up this website and your group; a handful of people strong. I can not wait to check back at this site in a few months time to see the 2-3 people (including me) actually silly enough to visit have moved on to some other “great cause”. You think you are doing us, “the people”, a service to stop the theft of our privacy? Why not protest the banks that you visit for video recording your every move once you are in their branches? Why not waive your frivolous sign in front of a camera at a casino, again “stealing” your privacy? Why is it fraud to capture an image of someone breaking the law, yet the hundreds of video cameras we all pass each an everyday are just a normal part of every day life? Your arguments have no merit; I would actually be embarrassed to be part of this “great cause”. Looks like your the fraud.

  2. catch says:

    Here you go, a comment:
    A friend of mine who was nearly killed by a person speeding through a redlight told me about this website, so I had to check it out.
    You guys are seriously a bunch of losers; setting up this website and your group; a handful of people strong. I can not wait to check back at this site in a few months time to see the 2-3 people (including me) actually silly enough to visit have moved on to some other “great cause”. You think you are doing us, “the people”, a service to stop the theft of our privacy? Why not protest the banks that you visit for video recording your every move once you are in their branches? Why not waive your frivolous sign in front of a camera at a casino, again “stealing” your privacy? Why is it fraud to capture an image of someone breaking the law, yet the hundreds of video cameras we all pass each an everyday are just a normal part of every day life? Your arguments have no merit; I would actually be embarrassed to be part of this “great cause”. Looks like you are the fraud.

  3. Sup Catch says:

    You say their arguments have no merit but you’ve done nothing to refute them. All you’ve done is throw out an appeal to emotion and ridiculed them.

    Any expansion of government oversight should be overseen by a skeptical public, not just embraced without question or debate. There are parts of this site that do seem to fall into some logical fallacies as well (slippery slope being the most notable), but they’ve made far more substantive arguments than you have.

    If you’re really that worked up about their positions you should try approaching them logically and engaging them in dialog rather than just calling them dumb. It does nothing to advance the debate.

  4. James Rogers says:

    This is a bunch of big brother bullcrap.

    Photo radar is simply a money making scheme, another way for the government to tax us.

  5. Ricardo says:

    I can believe the way the police treat this guy I am originally from Brasil and when I come this county I was proud of the excellence and respect the public serves had for the public, today America became a new fascist state controller by the bankers were the milk the public for every single penny civil rights don’t mean a thing and the constitution treated like toilet paper! Power to the people I will be sending Kevin some money for his defense fund!

  6. Bill Bruford says:

    Hey Catch,
    your banks and casinos are private property. they have a right to protect their property. City streets on the otherhand are public property. It would be one thing if cameras were posted because we requested them but they are only added for city revenue and have proven to not solve any problems. In fact even if you werent the driver of the car or there is a mistake they – the city doesnt want to hear it. They just want their fine money. I don;t need their tyranny nor will I get used to sort of thing..
    Bill in South Dakita.

  7. hooleyboy says:

    this is just stupid. Arresting someone who was blocking the sight of a camera or interfering with a government operation. thats just bogus. how can you even know you are blocking the site of the camera when you cant even see the cameras line of sight? WAR PHOTO RADAR!

  8. Brian B says:

    Way to go guys for getting arrested! What a bonehead thing to do.

  9. RPr says:

    this man went to jail for standing up for all of our rights.

    He is a hero.

  10. hooleyboy says:

    Minnesota’s supreme court ruled them unconstitutional. we need to see if this can help us too.

  11. hooleyboy says:

    email Ron Gould Arizona Senator, who is against photo radar. Here is his email let him know what you think about photo radar. tell him to fight for you.
    info@rongould.com

  12. mike says:

    Catch – defender of tyranny needs to be educated on liberty.

  13. Chris says:

    Long live photo radar! It has finally brought civility to the stretch of 101 through north Scottsdale. Before the fixed photo radar, the imbeciles who drove that road were out of control. These weren’t the good, safe speeders, either…they were complete and utter morons. And they’re gone! Or at least they know to control themselves on that stretch of road. I’m a north Scottsdale resident who absolutely loves the cameras. I say triple the number already in place.

  14. Kelly says:

    Chris,

    Be careful of what you ask for, you may just get it.

  15. CitizenK says:

    If the intended outcome of speeding cameras is to reduce speeding, why dont we instead just increase the fine for speeding to 100,000$ per violation? Of course I am being sarcastic, but only to an extent. This technology is being touted in the name of safety, though there is evidence that the cameras actually increase accidents. Red light and speeding cameras are quickly filling the coffers of governments who have over spent their budgets, and they are anxious to increase their rake. These cameras are simply an unearned tax. I’m very grateful that someone is taking a stand against this.

  16. Archie1954 says:

    Too many of the responses to this article miss the point. It doesn’t matter whether or not you agree with the protestors, what matters is whether or not they were within their rights to protest. As well, the article is very confusing because it speaks of the cameraman being arrested for filming the protest and then talks about one of the protestors being arrested for carrying a placard but doesn’t differentiate between them.

  17. Brian B says:

    CitizenK says “..there is evidence that the cameras actually increase accidents.” OK, show is the evidence…

  18. free2rhyme says:

    Re Brian B Says: CitizenK says “..there is evidence that the cameras actually increase accidents.” OK, show is [us] (sic) the evidence…

    “In October 2005, the Washington Post reported on the District of Columbia’s traffic-light cameras.

    The Post’s analysis showed an overall increase in the number of collisions at intersections with these cameras, an increase equal to or greater than collision increases at intersections without traffic-light cameras.

    The analysis shows that the number of crashes at locations with cameras more than doubled, from 365 collisions in 1998 to 755 last year. Injury and fatal crashes climbed 81 percent, from 144 such wrecks to 262. Broadside crashes, also known as right-angle or T-bone collisions, rose 30 percent, from 81 to 106 during that time frame.

    Considering that the cameras have “generated more than 500,000 violations and $32 million in fines over the past six years,” it’s not surprising that this situation has been allowed to continue. The article quotes Lon Anderson of AAA: “They are making a heck of a lot of money, and they are picking the motorists’ pockets on the pretense of safety.”…

    More “evidence” at: “Murder on the Roads by Nathan McKaskle Edited by Mark G. Sellers Part I and II” http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/mckaskle1.html

  19. free2rhyme says:

    “Everybody is worried about speed cameras and how they are used,”. “None of it has anything to do with safety. Bottom line is: it’s all about money.” Said Chad Dornsife, formerly of the National Motorists Association and now head of the Oregon-based Best Highway Safety Practices Institute, an advocacy group for “fact-based safety policies,”

    “There’s a direct correlation between congestion and flow factors and accidents,” he said. “[The] biggest problems are where backups occur. Cameras destroy the flow of the road. Any time a driver hits the brake, and the one after him, you completely destroy the flow and capacity of the road.”

    [Which is backed by a 2007 study of speed cameras on the Arizona State Route 101 in Scottsdale found a 50% reduction in the total crash frequency, with injuries falling by 40%. However rear-end collisions increased by 55%.]

    What has been lost in the public uproar and debate is the basic fact that for a red light camera or a photo radar speed enforcement system to be viable, there must be an underlying traffic safety engineering deficiency. In every case to date, that we have examined, without exception, this has been the case.”

    In fact, the vendors have included in many of their contracts, stipulations to prevent safety countermeasures to assure the profitability of these systems. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of red light camera locations are chosen because of their high volumes of traffic, despite the fact that they have low accident rates, to maximize returns.

    The same goes for Photo Radar. It too is always deployed in a manner to maximize revenue, taking advantage of grossly under posted limits and issuing citations to motorists who on the whole are in fact driving safe for conditions.

    Dornsife cited German autobahns as an example of safe, uniform, free-flowing traffic…He said that most speed cameras are catching drivers driving fast at night, which is the safest time of the day to drive since there is less traffic and roads frequently are clear.

    No matter how noble a press release is on the safety benefits of these systems, in the end, each and every participating city has turned its poor engineering practices into a for profit enterprise. As a tragic consequence, many people continue to be injured or killed unnecessarily while the city profits…

  20. Brian B says:

    That’s all you’ve got? A 2005 Washington Post article consisting of the Post’s own “analysis”? And a posting from a right-wing website? Well, there you go – I knew you didn’t have anything.

    Keep it up guys – keep sticking your posters in from of the cameras and getting arrested… that should help keep you from getting behind the wheel…

  21. ReneeCooks says:

    No Brain Opps I mean No Brian, thats not all they got out there. As a former streets and traffic engineer I can tell you (again) do some research and you will find all the info you need about the lack of safety at these photo enforced locations. Start with the AZ Dept of Trans. Manual then move on the police radar handbook. You will find that engineering safety standards are not being observed.

  22. RPr says:

    Brian b.

    check out ASU professor Simon Washington study that showed scottsdale accident rate increased 54% due to photo radar.

  23. free2rhyme says:

    Brian B seems relieved that the few excerpt studies supplied in the post above is all we got.

    But where is the actual “evidence” that supports his position? Where has he refuted anything? Nada!

    Here are some of the points, which he glossed over…or perhaps wants others to miss?

    How many studies does it take to recognize that doing the same old is the problem?

    The common belief that the market could not handle roads (construction, operation, and maintenance) usually arises NOT from careful consideration of alternatives, but from the exact opposite: a knee-jerk refusal to consider alternatives.

    Studying what drivers do naturally can assist engineers in designing safer, more efficient roads. Instead of trying to control drivers’ behavior with laws and cameras, the idea, as presented by Hans Monderman, is to use road design to bring out optimum driving behavior….

    Study 1: Highway Robbery Working Paper 2006-048A

    http://research.stlouisfed.org/wp/2006/2006-048.pdf

    A study on the relationship between local revenue and traffic citations in North Carolina from 1989 to 2003 confirmed what anyone might have suspected: that revenue maximization is a primary motive behind traffic tickets….

    Study 2: Speed Doesn’t Kill: The Repeal of the 55-MPH Speed Limit by Stephen Moore Stephen Moore is director of fiscal policy studies at the Cato Institute.

    …At the time, the highway safety lobby and consumer advocacy groups made apocalyptic predictions about 6,400 increased deaths and a million additional injuries if posted speed limits were raised. Ralph Nader even said that “history will never forgive Congress for this assault on the sanctity of human life.”

    But almost ALL measures of highway safety show improvement, not more deaths and injuries since 1995.

    The news on vehicle injuries since raising the speed limit is even more encouraging. In 1997 there were 3,399,000 injuries in car accidents, Down 66,000 from the 3,465,000 injuries in 1995, the year before the speed limits were raised…

    “Murder on the Roads by Nathan McKaskle Edited by Mark G. Sellers Part I and II” http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/mckaskle1.html

  24. Red says:

    Keep up the good work guys! These photo radar things are BS. Just another money grab from the man. The only thing I don’t like about the campaign is the “cops not cameras” slogan. We need more cops like we need more cases of cancer.

  25. Terry says:

    Brian b You can leed horses to water but you can`t make them drink

  26. Questions says:

    Questions that seem related to the issue would be: does Speed Kill?

    Speed Doesn’t Kill: The Repeal of the 55-MPH Speed Limit by Stephen Moore Stephen Moore is director of fiscal policy studies at the Cato Institute.

    …At the time, the highway safety lobby and consumer advocacy groups made apocalyptic predictions about 6,400 increased deaths and a million additional injuries if posted speed limits were raised. Ralph Nader even said that “history will never forgive Congress for this assault on the sanctity of human life.” [Soughta like the some panty wringers on this thread]

    But almost ALL measures of highway safety show improvement, not more deaths and injuries since 1995.

    The news on vehicle injuries since raising the speed limit is even more encouraging. In 1997 there were 3,399,000 injuries in car accidents, Down 66,000 from the 3,465,000 injuries in 1995, the year before the speed limits were raised…

    Another question related to the issue would be: Does it boil down to following the money as do so many gomermint-bogeymen propaganda programs?
    Highway Robbery Working Paper 2006-048A

    http://research.stlouisfed.org/wp/2006/2006-048.pdf

    A study on the relationship between local revenue and traffic citations in North Carolina from 1989 to 2003 confirmed what anyone might

    More questions related to the issue would be: are the studies supplied by the photo radar advocates skewed such as is the CPI (for any one not living under a rock)…?

    The common belief that the market could not handle roads (construction, operation, and maintenance) usually arises NOT from careful consideration of alternatives, but from the exact opposite: a knee-jerk refusal to consider alternatives.

    Studying what drivers do naturally can assist engineers in designing safer, more efficient roads. Instead of trying to control drivers’ behavior with laws and cameras, the idea, as presented by Hans Monderman, is to use road design to bring out optimum driving behavior….

    “Murder on the Roads by Nathan McKaskle Edited by Mark G. Sellers Part I and II” http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/mckaskle1.html

    Another Question related to poster concerns on this thread: What do studies show about gomermints that use cameras and fines to change behavior?

    Will that need more studies?

  27. Questions says:

    Omission correction to para: A study on the relationship between local revenue and traffic citations in North Carolina from 1989 to 2003 confirmed what anyone might have suspected:…. that revenue maximization is a primary motive behind traffic tickets….

  28. Chris M says:

    I am a strong supporter of Camerafraud.com. It seems they have done their research and have adopted a cause to protect our Constitutional rights. I am a proud American and a veteran of Iraqi Freedom (2002-2004). I never thought the day would come where I would actually say that I am disgusted and embarrassed at the actions of our government, but it has. These cameras are there for nothing more than city and state revenue and no matter which way you slice it, it is just plain wrong. What the Scottsdale Police have just done is totally ridiculous. If they can “invent” a crime to arrest this man, what happens when you come across their path and you are exercising your constitutional rights? If they don’t like it, will they “invent” a crime and arrest you too? No matter what our personal appearances are about the cameras, we must stick together and protect our rights. You have to admit that what the Scottsdale Police did was morally and legally wrong. They The Scottsdale Police) have a website and I e-mailed them expressing my distaste for what they have done. Yes, I left my name for I am no coward.

  29. [...] Scottsdale. A videographer who contributes to CameraFRAUD.com, as well as FreedomsPhoenix.com, was arrested by the Scottsdale Police department on 8/27/2008 while peacefully documenting the activities of two sign-wielding photo radar [...]

  30. countercamera says:

    Losing ones we care for to reckless drivers is terrible, happens far to often. I have personal experience.

    That should not jade the citizenry to the facts that these systems trade traffic safety, for government/foreign corporate revenues.

    The claims of improved safety are a lie.

    Our tragic experiences will be duplicated again and again ,because of the greedy, power-hungry, choices our politicians make.

    Engineering safe, efficient traffic goes by the wayside as “enforcement and profit” become the focus.
    ———————————-

    While writing this, I wonder what the percentage of drunk driving fatalities involved drivers who were photo-radar ticketed many times, before causing a wreck?

    And i wonder how much revenue the city or state collected as a result.

    Death on the highways = $$$$$Big cash profits.

    It’s a Win-Win.

    -cc

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